View Full Version : late gustloff stock comparison.
mauser99
06-11-2011, 08:06 PM
I took these pic's a while ago.. Rainy day and bored so I figured I'd reconfigure them and post them up. One is a 269,000 range the other a 270,000 range. You can clearly see the deterioration of quality of the letting of the stock. Also notice the way the hole is punched in the bayonett lug and the raw metal was not trimmed off and the stock was drilled to clear the metal hanging off.. Also the way the takedown discs were installed is a little crude. All around a late war rifle.. I would say the later rifle was hand letted for the triggerguard and the trigger hole hand cut. The early stock clearly shows routing. Both stocks have a 3 didgit # written in pencil that is not a partial serial #. Must be a workshop or preassembly number and are not always on early gustloff stocks.. Both stocks clearly show factory staining while the rifle was assembled as the stain leaked down along the barrel. Also the the # 1 or lower case l that appears on only the last couple thousand rifles stamped just below the wrist of the stock is present and it's meaning is unknown..
Aeisir
06-12-2011, 03:57 PM
Here are a couple of shots of another 269,000 range Gustloff. When I get around to it, I will add comparable pix of areas M99 posted.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/Aeisir/Late%20war%20Gustloff%20KKW/DSC05148.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/Aeisir/Late%20war%20Gustloff%20KKW/ISLowerstock.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/Aeisir/Late%20war%20Gustloff%20KKW/Stocktangarea.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/Aeisir/Late%20war%20Gustloff%20KKW/Wmarkstockend.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/Aeisir/Late%20war%20Gustloff%20KKW/DSC05147.jpg
mauser22
06-14-2011, 05:18 PM
These traits are all (in my opinion) concurrent with the move of KKW production to KZ Buchenwald. I had noted this in the text I contributed to Jon Speed's book on the .22's.
Subsequent to that effort I found significant other facts that contributed to developing a time line that correlates to SN ranges and other production traits observed (Gustloff KKW production move out to KZ Buchenwald). That text has been handed over to Bob Simpson for inclusion in his forthcoming book.
You have done an excellent job of presenting the photographic evidence.
Good Job.
Aeisir
06-14-2011, 07:45 PM
I just took a few more pix to better show comparisons to M99's examples. The seitengewehrhalter is different. I had forgotten that the stock carried a penciled number. The untering is of the un-grooved variety.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/Aeisir/Late%20war%20Gustloff%20KKW/DSC_0522a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/Aeisir/Late%20war%20Gustloff%20KKW/DSC_0521a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/Aeisir/Late%20war%20Gustloff%20KKW/DSC_0517a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/Aeisir/Late%20war%20Gustloff%20KKW/DSC_0525a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/Aeisir/Late%20war%20Gustloff%20KKW/DSC_0527.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/Aeisir/Late%20war%20Gustloff%20KKW/DSC_0533.jpg
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