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Borsigwalde K98k Serials and Data

Here is the list of Borsigwalde, BLM, and Erma's I have...Farb has the full data sheets on each, but I can retrieve any info you might want here...

Borsigwalde -

1937 S/243 425 f

1938 243 2886 n

1940 243 8602 l

1941 ar 1757 g

1942 ar 3149 l

BLM -

1938 S/237 4461 c

1938 237 6521 f

1940 237 3022 b

1941 duv (need to look at database at work to get this s/n)

1942 duv 515

ERMA -

1938 S/27 154 a

1938 S/27 8410 a

1939 27 2789 l
 
Hope this helps.

First is a set of bands from an S/27.G rifle - 7790. If these are from a G date, as I would think they are, it's a new high for S/27.G.

Nest is my vet souvenir Erma 1939 rifle. All matching, but the original bolt and stock gone (GI Bubba). Everything else matches, down to the triggerguard screws.
 

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My ar 41 - serial 3101 h. Second rifle. RC.
 

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vulch if S27G bands they would have DROP eagle proofs not E280, these bands are from later production.
 
Vaughn,

How long did Erma keep using the narrow sling bar then? I thought the narrow early style sling bar ended in 1935.
 
Received my latest US veteran bring back Borsigwalde.

Receiver: 243 1940

Barrel code: 64139

Serial: 9307 i (EVERYTHING, except bolt, floorplate and ejector box - floorplate is unserialled WW2)

Markings: Kriegsmarine M on right side property eagle. Left disc Nordsee marked N31460 (disc interestingly is e/655 and K marked - both discs). Clear e/26 inspection stamps. Only 2 butt side waffenamts - the Eagle/M and large eagle/26 - either the last waffenamt was not struck or it has worn off.

Stock: flat plate laminate. Deep red-brown stain. Beautiful virgin beech inside (VERY blonde). Bayonet bar/nosecap is blued.
 
I've seen some curved sling bars on some maker's early '37 production rifles. By the 9000 range of "c" in '37 the S/237's have gone to straight bars, but the S/42 '37 7xx range in "c" still has curved sling bars. I've seen a bSw '37 with a curved sling bar as well. Hope this helps somewhat.
 
A few more!

S/243 1938 #4525 All match.

S/243 1938 #4398b All match.

243 1940 #4701a All match.

duv42 #1451r Mismatched trigger housing & floorplate.
 
S/27G 5825 NIM matching except handguard & extractor.

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DUV 1942 4027r "I" marked receiver none matching

AR 43 8483f very very light stamped maker and receiver code, can barely see it also marked "I" on receiver , white glue stock, all e/26 parts mostly matching
 
ar43 3539L, all matching. Has a WaA140/MI marked bolt and stamped trigger guard with machined floorplate and machined and closed upper band. Trigger guard is Eagle/214 marked and cleaning rod is "i" coded.
 
This one is a Heer issue but can you tell me more about it?

Just bought this one. 243 1939 9472h. All matching except magazine floor plate. GI duffel cut bringback.
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Hey guys, I have a 1940 RC 243 SN 384. Would be a nice stock but Russians did a terrible job with it. Has the cleaning rod still and the locking screws.
 
Just curious: a friend of mine called me yesterday that they found a rifle when they cleaned up the house of his grandfather. I went there and picked it up, it's a 243 coded rifle dating 1938. Unfortunately a mixmaster, however what caught my attention is the fact that both the barrel and the receiver have the serial 3479 s. According to http://www.ycgg.org/pdfpages/ww2/mauser-borsigwalde.pdf the highest known serial number for 1938 is 6157 r, so how would this rifle fit into that scheme?
 
1586 s is the highest 243/38 known, it is an rc, but it has plenty of rifles nearby to give it status of high that year, - though yours would be the highest now. Vol.I might have a higher rifle known, might check it, but the highest confirmed I have noted is this 1586 s

BTW, nothing is wrong with Bob Jensen's early articles, Peter Kuck did a good job updating them, but one must remember these were originally written before Backbone (late 80's early 90's), - collectors really should try and get these new books Mike & Bruce are developing, they are not only the best understanding that can be had with the current information available, but also rely heavily on Jon Speed's archive and research, each book is full of original documents.

You really can't rely upon any other book unless you are very specialized and or do your own research, which is very time consuming and of dubious value in time & energy involved.
 
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