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Hercules
01-19-2012, 10:49 PM
These are a few photos of a rifle and scope I recently purchased from two auctions. The rifle has a repair depot mark on the lower portion of the stock behind the trigger guard. The scope is a bmj high turret serial 72417 and does not match gun. The rest of the parts on rifle are matching. Any opinions appreciated. Thanks.

Brian

Hercules
01-19-2012, 10:54 PM
More Photos.

Dave Roberts
01-20-2012, 02:16 AM
Brian
I believe the Rifle from what I see Stands on it`s own Merits . That is great HT .
It is an Interesting HT its a Rework which to me is a Must have one some day .
Congrats . Well Done . Glad to see the BMJ fit they usually do without much
trouble . Put in place Turn & Lock in Place . Best Regards

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Hercules
01-20-2012, 12:05 PM
Brian
I believe the Rifle from what I see Stands on it`s own Merits . That is great HT .
It is an Interesting HT its a Rework which to me is a Must have one some day .
Congrats . Well Done . Glad to see the BMJ fit they usually do without much
trouble . Put in place Turn & Lock in Place . Best Regards

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Dave,

The scope was not all that difficult to put on the rifle. The plate on the rear mount needed a little adjustment like you had mentioned earlier. There have been a couple of rework 98k snipers surface lately. Thanks very much Dave.

Brian

mauser99
01-20-2012, 12:55 PM
I was watching that one close. Nice purchase. Of note, I noticed that E/Su 2 proof on the stock right off.
It's a depot stamp. I still see no evidence of any part of that rifle being reworked or repaired. Of note, I have a very late gustoff kkw that had a zf41 scope mount added. This is a known variation and shows up in a very specific serial range. I feel these rifles were sent from Gustloff to this depot for up-fit. As you can see the proof is the same. The stock also has an E/su19 on the right side. I have also seen a low turret with this same proof placement. I can only assume the rifle may of had damge to the scope itself and was repaired?? Not sure 100% but thats my best guess. Another member had a zf41k98 with the same stamps.
Maybe they delt with optic issues? Anyway here is a photo of the proof on my rifle.

Kammerjaeger
01-20-2012, 01:17 PM
Do you guys mind saying which auction had this rifle? Thanks.


KJ

Hercules
01-20-2012, 02:17 PM
I was watching that one close. Nice purchase. Of note, I noticed that E/Su 2 proof on the stock right off.
It's a depot stamp. I still see no evidence of any part of that rifle being reworked or repaired. Of note, I have a very late gustoff kkw that had a zf41 scope mount added. This is a known variation and shows up in a very specific serial range. I feel these rifles were sent from Gustloff to this depot for up-fit. As you can see the proof is the same. The stock also has an E/su19 on the right side. I have also seen a low turret with this same proof placement. I can only assume the rifle may of had damge to the scope itself and was repaired?? Not sure 100% but thats my best guess. Another member had a zf41k98 with the same stamps.
Maybe they delt with optic issues? Anyway here is a photo of the proof on my rifle.

You might be right. However, the mounts on the rifle looked like they had not been used much. There was not any wear on them to show that a scope had been installed and removed many times. Thanks.

Brian

Hercules
01-20-2012, 02:18 PM
Do you guys mind saying which auction had this rifle? Thanks.


KJ

The rifle was purchased from an online auction at Gunbroker.com.

Brian

mauser99
01-20-2012, 02:31 PM
You might be right. However, the mounts on the rifle looked like they had not been used much. There was not any wear on them to show that a scope had been installed and removed many times. Thanks.

Brian

Well, rebuild or repair would show with replacement parts. I see none. The rifle was used very little or just well cared for ???

Hercules
01-20-2012, 02:48 PM
Well, rebuild or repair would show with replacement parts. I see none. The rifle was used very little or just well cared for ???

Thanks for the info. and photo.

Brian

Dave Roberts
01-20-2012, 05:38 PM
Possible it had Rear Sight work and then re-dipped could explain the almost new blue be as it is
Best Regards .

Hercules
01-21-2012, 12:14 PM
Possible it had Rear Sight work and then re-dipped could explain the almost new blue be as it is
Best Regards .

Dave,

I was thinking about that, but there is a small amount solder splash under corner of mount and in one screw hole of front mount that does not show any signs of bluing. Also, the rear mount does not show any bluing over solder on front edge where the solder is prominent. That also depends on how the solder would react to the bluing. However, I do not see evidence of a double coat as far as I can tell. As far as the rear sight goes I would say the numbering and finish looks the same as rest of rifle. That is hard to say for sure. Maybe, but I know you have seen a lot of these so I would like to know what you think.

Brian

Peter S
01-21-2012, 04:37 PM
solder does not take on blue.....only steel will blue.

Hercules
01-21-2012, 11:42 PM
solder does not take on blue.....only steel will blue.

I have never tried, but you are probably right. I do not know if it would discolor or not.

mike radford
01-28-2012, 11:34 AM
Nice score and great looking rifle. Congratulations.

Hercules
01-28-2012, 10:10 PM
Nice score and great looking rifle. Congratulations.

Thanks for taking a look at it.

Brian

mjones
01-31-2012, 07:33 PM
Hercules,
Very nice rifle. Thanks for posting.
Mike

Dave Roberts
01-31-2012, 08:09 PM
Brian
Peter S. is correct Solder does not take bluing .

Hercules
02-09-2012, 10:08 AM
Brian
Peter S. is correct Solder does not take bluing .

Yes I think there is no doubt about that.

Brian

Hercules
02-09-2012, 10:24 AM
It's a little amazing, yours have the "3" bunny proof for "b" block while mine have the "2" for a "e" block.

Here is a little better photo of the bunny proof as you say. The first set of photos were my intial quick photos. Thanks for opinions/comments on the rifle. The proof looks more like a "2" in this photo.

Brian

Hercules
02-12-2012, 01:55 AM
I was watching that one close. Nice purchase. Of note, I noticed that E/Su 2 proof on the stock right off.
It's a depot stamp. I still see no evidence of any part of that rifle being reworked or repaired. Of note, I have a very late gustoff kkw that had a zf41 scope mount added. This is a known variation and shows up in a very specific serial range. I feel these rifles were sent from Gustloff to this depot for up-fit. As you can see the proof is the same. The stock also has an E/su19 on the right side. I have also seen a low turret with this same proof placement. I can only assume the rifle may of had damge to the scope itself and was repaired?? Not sure 100% but thats my best guess. Another member had a zf41k98 with the same stamps.
Maybe they delt with optic issues? Anyway here is a photo of the proof on my rifle.

Mauser 99,

Here is a close up of the Eagle su19 proof you mentioned in your post. I did not see this proof right away until you had mentioned it. Thanks.

Brian