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A Blast from the Past (Auctions from 5 yrs ago)

Bob in OHIO

Bob in OHIO

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Nothing is expressed or implied in this selection/ collection of auctions​

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6269809

#2 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6756811

#3 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7098484

#4 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6978562

#5 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6309272

#6 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6927606

#7 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6269809

#8 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6673541

#9 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6475184

#10 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6606653

#11 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7256063&aa=%20%20German%20Military%20Automatic%20Mean%20looking%20SOB
 
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Wow, thanks for sharing those, Bob! My favorite was the "German Military Automatic-Mean looking SOB" with the $600 Buy It Now price.... I wasn't even a member of auction arms 5 years ago, so it looks like I missed out on alot of good stuff. :facepalm:
 
These are recent auctions I posted on a thread in Gunboards for price support on a rifle. I realize there is some inflation built into the increases over time, but there is substantial price growth as well. If this continues maybe the "Nazi K98 42 code 1938 WOW ! Nice !" seller's dream will come true.

42 39 $2,810
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...1282&oh=216543

147 40 $2,100
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=166129543

42 39 $2,300
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=164969640

DOU 42 $2,125
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=164624785

BCD 4 $2,135 (Sauer)
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=163952338

BYF 41 $2,650
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=162809815

CE 42 $1,575
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=162763251

BNZ 43 $1,000 (BUY IT NOW)
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...3369&oh=216543

BCD 4 $1,051 Gustloff
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=161366687

38 27 $2,425
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=161369569

DUV 41 $3,191
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=161166822

CE 41 $1,500
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=159870618

243 40 $2,040
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=159761484
 
mauser202 said:
Wow, I like the bnz for 500! I wonder what prices will look like in 5 years from current.
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I bought that gun- it had an unsanded dot44 stock on it with a nice bnz44 action..I parted it out. :facepalm:

Still, it saved a dot44 somewhere.
 
Thanks BiO. Very interesting. I won #6. Nobody bid on it and I got it for $895. It's a wonderful matched, untouched ar 41. It had a cocoon in the bore which cleaned to mirror mint and a folded up newspaper page from 1946 under the handguard.
 
Bob in OHIO said:
.... the 5 year bump :thumbsup:
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I will make a serious attempt at this later today, but there has been so much overpriced, misrepresented crap and crazy prices for junk that I am not sure if I can put together a list like the one from 2010.
 
Oh, and the "Nazi K98 42 code 1938 WOW! Nice!" Seller's dream did come true. He sold his heavily-buffed, butt-ugly, RC 42 1938 with a stock showing sanding a half-inch deep in places for $799 via Buy it Now. It took about four years of recycling the same three-day auction over-and-over, but he did it.
 
Bob in OHIO said:
Nothing is expressed or implied in this selection/ collection of auctions​

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6269809

#2 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6756811

#3 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7098484

#4 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6978562

#5 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6309272

#6 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6927606

#7 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6269809

#8 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6673541

#9 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6475184

#10 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6606653

#11 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7256063&aa=%20%20German%20Military%20Automatic%20Mean%20looking%20SOB
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From what I remember of 2005-2006 this was not the norm. All these auctions less one have One thing in common. Bad listings and poor photos. I got a kick out of seeing a couple of Larry's auctions up there when he used auction arms before switching to GB his photo and listing skills have improved.

The best deal I saw was the BCD g43 for 600.00 That guy was an idiot. I don't recall that auction.

If you look today you will still see plenty of stuff going way below market. You just have to look. Even though it was great going down memory lane...
 
mauser99 said:
The best deal I saw was the BCD g43 for 600.00 That guy was an idiot.
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+1 Bear in mind, Falarmco is a professional arms dealer but one who was obviously too lazy to research what "G43" means. Half of the words used in his item description are unnecessary, useless, and have no bearing in regards to the item he sells. He confuses "549a" with "5492" but at least admits he has "NO Clue", something I already figured after only reading the title of the auction.
 
R = Reserve Auction with Reserve Met
RNR = Reserve Auction with Reserve Not met but not relisted (e.g. likely sold off-line)
BIN = Buy it Now
NR = No Reserve Auction
RNMR = Reserve Auction with Reserve not met but relisted

I attempted to select rifles that were original, matching and correct with some allowances for light cleaning, heavy wear/rust and minor mismatched parts. I did not include fakes or refinished rifles in this first list, but some of these had parts that others found suspect:

147 1939 minor mismatched parts may be period replacements NR $1,201
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=496644183

BYF 41 Worn Original in Hardwood NR $2,980
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=497272354

ar 44 “N” Block, hand-stamped – split handguard and wear NR $1,525
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=500339918

DUV 42 with wear NR $2,580
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=497434299

DUV 42 with wear/few pics BIN $2,000
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=496758875

BCD 4 with suspect barrel band NR $3,226
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=484749732

BCD 45 with suspect barrel band NR $2,325
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=493610300

42 1940 with heavy wear/rust NR $905
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=487044291

S/243 1937 with wear, extreme idiot damage and minor mismatched parts NR $1,281
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=486852449

AX 1940 Bolt Mismatch BIN $1,100
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=498904459

BCD 43 with heavy rust/pitting BIN $625
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=490002913

DOT 44 Late/Excellent BIN $1,199.95
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=492248028

BYF 44 “L” Block original + Bayonet BIN $1,125
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=493317956

S/27 1936 Old light cleaning and wear BIN $2,800
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=497613326

42 1938 Mismatched band, very nice with sling BIN $999
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=503169462

1937 S/147 Bolt Mismatch Looks good RNR $875
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=503169462

DOU 42 Light stock, old cleaning, mismatched handguard good condition R $1,000
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=490751001

DOT 44 Some Rust otherwise nice RNR $1,175
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=486009420

BCD 4 some wear, some graffiti NR $995
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=493365057

BYF 44 “L” Block Nice with accessories NR $2,001
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=499337998

svwMB Bolt Mismatch; bands/handguard replaced? NR $1.426
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=498258027

Now for some auctions that went extremely high regardless of issues:

AX 41 Reblued areas but rifle represented as all original NR $4,775
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=499332786

S/42G Possible Rework, Refinished stock represented as original RNMR $3,800
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=489174264

BNZ 42 Refinished fake represented as original NR $3,025
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=493213434

ar 42 altered stock/metal? represented as original NR $2,326
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=489824430

DOT 44 Altered stock represented as original NR $2,030
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=497859069

42 1940 Possible Rework, but more likely a fabrication listed as authentic NR $2,025
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=485159998

BNZ 43 Rune with multiple issues, most disclosed by seller NR 2,325
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=493835619

ANALYSIS

Unlike Gunauction.com, Gunbroker auctions disappear after a few months. It is difficult to say whether prices are up or down from these results. I will say that it seems the volume of rifles for sale seems to be increasing, but not necessarily the quality. As time goes by, good rifles find their way into permanent collections while lesser rifles are altered by dishonest sellers trying to make a dollar. There are multiple examples in this list where dishonesty paid well. Still, in these results are examples of some great buys. The 42 1938 was a good buy as was the DOT 44 SKM and the BYF 44 “L” block with bayonet.
 
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