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1916 C.G. Haenel Suhl Not bad?

Birdguy58

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Found an interesting Gewehr98 a while ago, a 1916 C.G. Haenel Suhl, maybe the scholars could use the information for trends. After cleaning the dirt and grim off, found the metal is actually pretty nice. But the stock has issues. Deep crack at the wrist and it must have been sitting quite a time in water as the butt is rotted and the buttplate has rusted away, was not included with the rifle. Some guy had driven 2 long brads into the wrist area to hold the thing together, I pulled the brads out; could have been a lot worse. What a shame, it's a beautiful piece of wood. Looks a little naked on top as there is no handguard. I bought it knowing full well it was a wreck but found it not too awe full bad!

It came with an Amberg Bolt, one that I had identified by the lion crest. Bolt is all matching to itself, turned out to be the worst of the metal parts.

And now for the barrel, the bluing is still quite good probably better than 70%. The bore is dark especially in the grooves didn't spend much time scrubbing it out yet, strong rifling but looks rough. Muzzle end has been counter bored by a lot! To the tune of 11 1/2" Never seen a counter bore that deep before. Why so extreme? We checked out the chamber, and all the diameters are inside the safe zone as shootable, not counter bored at that end. We indexed the full length of the barrel looking for any bulges, didn't find any. And the barrel is perfectly straight, we considered maybe a bend at the muzzle, but none there.
The counter bore has been done a while ago, a bit crude and well oxidized turning to a black patina, but not pitted. Do you think rifle grenades could have something to do with this?

If I missed something in the photos you might need, let me know, I'll post it up.

barrel, receiver serial #8862a
stock marked inside and out 8862
trigger guard 8862
floorplate and follower 62
front trigger guard screw 14
rear trigger guard screw 62
front band, rear band 62
trigger assembly 62
bolt stop 62
front sight 62
rear sight 62
rear sight base 62
 

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But wait there's more!

More pictures....
 

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I'd say a good pick up, the Suhl makers can be tough to find matching, and most are rough when you find them. This is the first CGH/1916 "a" block recorded too!

What there is of the rifle is original it looks like, very nice really, the barrel was made by JP Sauer, which is typical of the consortium production. The crown on the barrel shoulder means it was counter-bored at the muzzle.

Mike, can you do good & clear images of the stock acceptance & cypher? I track these and I would like to get as clear a picture as possible!

Thanks for the great post!
 
Paul, thank you for the comments, much valued. I'll post more photos when I get back to work. Best regards...Mike
 
Stock markings

Hello! Posted some more pictures. The markings are faint or messed up, so this is what is left of them, I hope you can get the info you need...Mike
 

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Yes, thanks Mike for remembering!

These Suhl makers are very interesting!

Hello! Posted some more pictures. The markings are faint or messed up, so this is what is left of them, I hope you can get the info you need...Mike
 

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