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1916 Danzig

yellowkid

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I'm not really a g98 collector tho i'd like to be -- good ones are just too hard to find! i mostly collect k98 kriegsmodells but have stumbled across a few g98's over the years and since I don't think theres enough action over here i thought id post one. its a 1916 danzig and one of my favorites. Sn is 7177 n. all matching including the rod. i know the shot with the barrel markings isn't great - its marked "BI 659" and below the woodline theres a row of three identical imperial acceptance marks if i recall correctly. i assume this is all the barrel makers stuff. not a particularly rare year or maker i know. I picked up storz's book a while back hungry for Imperial info and think its great but not a lot on Danzig even tho they are the most common maker? I really enjoyed mike and bruce's imperial action in the new book too - a lot of info in a small space! I long for a nice Suhl Simson or oberspree example but you just don't see good ones. anyway enjoy and any comment welcome as I don't know very much about these.
 

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a few more pics.

heres the rest.
 

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nice

1916 danzig isnt an easy one to find. At least I think so . I saw one that nice at allentown once and I think you may have the same one ?? I have to get you my table # so you can come over in chat in a couple weeks..
 
I did find this at allentown but was quite a while ago -- like 5-6 years ago. I picked up another 1916 Danzig (why another? do any of us really know why we buy these things?). a couple years ago too. might be the one you are thinking about. it was on a table in the "new wing" near the door. let me pull it out and take a few. its later in the double letter suffix. its actually been a head-scratcher for me so I'd love opinions. And yeah hoping to make it to the Forks show -- will find you tho I think i may know already -- there are not too many tables with nice collector quality 98's there ;)
 
yep

larry had it under the table.. He picked it up friday and showed it to me.. He's so fast running around that place its hard to get anything.. He usually wont sell anything either. It all goes to auction.:facepalm:
 
It is good to actually see some pictures of this one, I had it on file from 2005 when you put it to our old email group, but always best to see pictures when possible.

Danzig/1916 is as you say, not a rare maker-date, not at all, as it is actually the highest known production maker-year so far recorded of any of the makers 1898-1918. While it is a very high production year, including recorded examples, it is not all that easy to find matching-original. For whatever reason, as I wrote in my article on Danzig last year, finding a matching-original rifle from Danzig, prior to 1917, is darn right difficult. Many more Danzig/1917 are known matching-original than 1915-1916 combined.

This rifle I can't tell by the acceptance in the picture whether the stock is original, I think it probably is due to some of the pictures looking right. But the rear band and bolt are probably bad, imo anyway, the rear bands are not serialed that way usually, and the bolt is obviously not original, probably not period either. Typically in the wartime re-numbering of replacement parts they followed line-out or force match, often renumbering in several places, the ball is very typical, very rare is scrub & re-number done during the FWW, only seen it a couple times and it is rarely a complete scrub, usually it is a casual thing, not a complete, neat process.

Better pictures would help, try to do higher resolution ones? Also, in 2005 you said this was unit marked?
 

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