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TheSmorgMan

TheSmorgMan

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S/42 1937 rifle, everything seems to match. Not sure about the stock though. Can’t take it apart to verify. Is there supposed to be anything on the side?

It’s at my local cabelas for and I asked them to hold it for me for a day.

Took some quick pics for reference. I should have taken more now that I think about it
Parts were milled out not stamped. As for some of the finer details. Yeah I should have taken more pictures since I’m not that confident.
 

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Do you have any idea what that round stamp is on the right side of the barrel? I’ve never seen it before
Zeppelin5000 said:
The stock was replaced. They weren't using cupped buttplates until early 41.

I'm thinking the stock is from a 1944 Gustloff or Brünn I rifle.
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Zeppelin5000 said:
The stock was replaced. They weren't using cupped buttplates until early 41.

I'm thinking the stock is from a 1944 Gustloff or Brünn I rifle.
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perhaps earlier than ‘44 because the recoil lug is late type BUT it is in backwards (nut on left) indicating that it was removed & then replaced by an unknowing person. it could be original to the stock, but we know it’s been messed with, the part is ‘handed’, tho it fits in backwards. the light color of the stock suggests some amount of cleaning/refinishing, BUT there aren’t sanding marks on the takedown disc.

that being said, it all depends on the deal, & what the OP wants the rifle for. perhaps enhanced years ago, as it has an ‘old collector’ flavor to it with the white paint in the marks.
 
Muncher 1953 said:
perhaps earlier than ‘44 because the recoil lug is late type BUT it is in backwards (nut on left) indicating that it was removed & then replaced by an unknowing person. it could be original to the stock, but we know it’s been messed with, the part is ‘handed’, tho it fits in backwards. the light color of the stock suggests some amount of cleaning/refinishing, BUT there aren’t sanding marks on the takedown disc.

that being said, it all depends on the deal, & what the OP wants the rifle for. perhaps enhanced years ago, as it has an ‘old collector’ flavor to it with the white paint in the marks.I was going to pick it up and use it for a shooter instead
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Cabelas is asking 780. Wouldn’t mind having a shooter to spare my collector rifle. So not really interested in either “all matching” rifle or a complete turd…
 
Beyond the lack of original stock and barrel, all we can see is that the bolt and rear sight matches the receiver. Might want to see if the bands, trigger guard and floorplate match as well. The yellow looking stocks always have the look of those Norwegian used K98k replacement stocks that were on the market for some time. Possible sporter rescue? $780 is in the ballpark of what some are paying for totally mismatched Russian refurbished rifles these days.
 
Stan said:
Beyond the lack of original stock and barrel, all we can see is that the bolt and rear sight matches the receiver. Might want to see if the bands, trigger guard and floorplate match as well. The yellow looking stocks always have the look of those Norwegian used K98k replacement stocks that were on the market for some time. Possible sporter rescue? $780 is in the ballpark of what some are paying for totally mismatched Russian refurbished rifles these days.
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Yeah I should have taken better pictures, or at least more. Didn’t check trigger guard, but bands and floorplate match. Milled type.
 
TheSmorgMan said:
Thanks. Also has front sight hood. I don’t think they did that until later so front sight is modified?
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At the point in time most of these got re-barreled, the hooded front sight would have been the normal installation. I have a 1939 rifle that got re-barreled. New, hooded front sight base, but they reused the blade, or numbered it to the rifle at least.
 
TheSmorgMan said:
Cabelas is asking 780. Wouldn’t mind having a shooter to spare my collector rifle. So not really interested in either “all matching” rifle or a complete turd…
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780 barely gets you an RC these days. If you want it as a shooter it's a no brainer in my book, doubly so since the receiver, rear sight, and bolt seem to match each other.

Worst case you bought someone's sporter rescue project, and frankly you can do a lot worse. If it was being sold as a sporter rescue with a replaced stock and bands (so matching trigger guard and floorplate) it would be a pretty great deal.

Best case you'll get it apart and find it's a matching wartime rebuild.
 
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