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Gewehr 98 - Danzig 1916 - 100% Matching

PatickD

PatickD

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Hi guys,

Picked this Danzig Gew 98 off GB a while ago. For a BIN slightly above retail price.

It’s 100% matching, even the cleaning rod. Overall in good condition. A lot of the serial numbers are stamped slightly crooked. My first 100% matching Gew 98

Only negative would be the “idiot” wear around the recoil lug. Which I don’t understand. Why try to take it out, with the wrong tool and not even clean the active rust off? Which I had to do.

Underneath the butt-plate has interesting a property(?) mark, dated to the 1930’s from some guy in Ohio.

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Very nice! My 1916 Danzig is all matching as well, I'm curious as to why people try to take the recoil lug out without the proper spanner tool. Mine has the "idiot" marks on it as well and on the disc when they tried to remove it.
 
Wow, really cool, the writing under the buttplate really makes it IMHO. That's something I don't think I've seen.
 
pzjgr said:
Wow, really cool, the writing under the buttplate really makes it IMHO. That's something I don't think I've seen.
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Thought it was cool, since it’s from the height of the Great Depression. Maybe the rifle was used to put food on the table at the time.
 
Congrats on your first matching rifle! Very nice overall and the name under the buttplate is a really nice find. I'll never understand the recoil lug thing either, don't know why so many people were obsessed with taking them out and butchering up the holes or stock in the process.
 
That’s a great, “early” 1916 Danzig. The best part about this rig is the late cotton canvas sling. The maker marks are almost never visible on these.
 
AN-94 said:
Congrats on your first matching rifle! Very nice overall and the name under the buttplate is a really nice find. I'll never understand the recoil lug thing either, don't know why so many people were obsessed with taking them out and butchering up the holes or stock in the process.
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Thanks! That’s what I didn’t understand either. It was taken out, then put right back in, rust and all.

Oh, I should clarify. I have other “matching” Gew 98’s. Just not any others with the actual matching cleaning rod. Though, one has an armorers cleaning rod.
 
mauser1908 said:
That’s a great, “early” 1916 Danzig. The best part about this rig is the late cotton canvas sling. The maker marks are almost never visible on these.
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I got that Sling and muzzle cover from Mike actually.

This rifle also came with a canvas sling. It’s not as nice though imo. No date/markings visible on this one:
 

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PatickD said:
I got that Sling and muzzle cover from Mike actually.

This rifle also came with a canvas sling. It’s not as nice though imo. No date/markings visible on this one:
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Mike had several great canvas slings. The one it came with is nothing to sneeze at, it’s excellent.
 
PatickD said:
Thanks! That’s what I didn’t understand either. It was taken out, then put right back in, rust and all.

Oh, I should clarify. I have other “matching” Gew 98’s. Just not any others with the actual matching cleaning rod. Though, one has an armorers cleaning rod.
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Cleaning rods are minor in the grand scheme of things but it is always cool to find a rifle that retains its original cleaning rod. Armorer's cleaning rod is pretty neat, don't think those turn up all that often. I haven't had any luck finding a decent matching Gewehr 98 that hasn't been sanded, sporterized, or intact yet so matching cleaning rods are just a bonus in my eyes at this point.
 
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Cleaning rods are minor in the grand scheme of things but it is always cool to find a rifle that retains its original cleaning rod. Armorer's cleaning rod is pretty neat, don't think those turn up all that often. I haven't had any luck finding a decent matching Gewehr 98 that hasn't been sanded, sporterized, or intact yet so matching cleaning rods are just a bonus in my eyes at this point.
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Yea, you’re 100% right. Shouldn’t factor in a cleaning rod to be considered “100% matching”.
 
Such rifles are rarely encountered, an early 1916, from a maker like Danzig is very rare (they saw action more than most), especially so original with the right sling.... the idiot markings are unfortunate but common enough and a minor distraction. Interesting the markings under the BP, that story would have been as interesting as the rifle! (Ohio had a great number of veterans and after the war states that contributed the most men for service received more of the 80k trophies the US brought back)

Try and do the bolt lower flat acceptance, these are rare enough to make it worth the effort, rare enough finding a factory bolt, doubly so the acceptance shown.

*** it is rather paradoxical that such a massive producer as Danzig in 1916 (QQ blocks are known- that is a lot of rifles.....) is so rare in such condition, - 1917 rifles are equally high ranges but far more common in this conditions. and documented rather thoroughly. Not so in 1916, especially so early, - BC trends are well represented (barrels have a high survival rate, bolts are rare), bolt trends are meager.
 
Loewe said:
Such rifles are rarely encountered, an early 1916, from a maker like Danzig is very rare (they saw action more than most), especially so original with the right sling.... the idiot markings are unfortunate but common enough and a minor distraction. Interesting the markings under the BP, that story would have been as interesting as the rifle! (Ohio had a great number of veterans and after the war states that contributed the most men for service received more of the 80k trophies the US brought back)

Try and do the bolt lower flat acceptance, these are rare enough to make it worth the effort, rare enough finding a factory bolt, doubly so the acceptance shown.

*** it is rather paradoxical that such a massive producer as Danzig in 1916 (QQ blocks are known- that is a lot of rifles.....) is so rare in such condition, - 1917 rifles are equally high ranges but far more common in this conditions. and documented rather thoroughly. Not so in 1916, especially so early, - BC trends are well represented (barrels have a high survival rate, bolts are rare), bolt trends are meager.
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Thanks for the extra info as always Paul.

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Pat, I appreciate the photo, perfect match to its closest trend (a p-block, yours is an L-block, so very close!)

BTW, on an unrelated rifle, your DWM/16 is a p-block not n-block, no matter really but just to return the favor of taking this shot for my research (bolt lower flats are not easy to trend!)
 
Loewe said:
Pat, I appreciate the photo, perfect match to its closest trend (a p-block, yours is an L-block, so very close!)

BTW, on an unrelated rifle, your DWM/16 is a p-block not n-block, no matter really but just to return the favor of taking this shot for my research (bolt lower flats are not easy to trend!)
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Great info.

Oh thanks! That POS lol. I got that rifle simply because I wanted the muzzle cover it had lol. Thanks for extra info.
 
That's a great Danzig Danny..You can find rifles with matching numbers down to the rod and muzzle cover (when they cared to number the covers, that is), but they are fairly scarce.

PatickD said:
Great info.

Oh thanks! That POS lol. I got that rifle simply because I wanted the muzzle cover it had lol. Thanks for extra info.
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FWIW, you won't make a lot of friends with statements like that.. especially when bashing it here, but hyping it up on GB to flip. A newer guy would be pretty happy with one like that with a few warts.
 
chrisftk said:
That's a great Danzig Danny..You can find rifles with matching numbers down to the rod and muzzle cover (when they cared to number the covers, that is), but they are fairly scarce.


FWIW, you won't make a lot of friends with statements like that.. especially when bashing it here, but hyping it up on GB to flip. A newer guy would be pretty happy with one like that with a few warts.
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Never seen one with a matching muzzle cover. Dammit, the search always continues lol.

Completely valid point. On your second comment.
 
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