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    Default Crude S-block bnz 45

    This one has a weird bolt.... no alpha on the body & only bolt part numbered is the body. The forged gas shield was never cosmetically milled up top, and then not numbered. Bolt body has a fire proof.
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    Still unmistakably correct. My guess is that the bolt screw failed inspection after numbering and the unnumbered late bolt sleeve/cocking piece/safety/firing pin went in as a correction to get a functional rifle out the door. I think that Steyr likely did the same thing with unnumbered replacement bolts for the same reason. Beautiful rifle.
    WTB/WTT: (1)late E/H marked bcd stock either standard or semi-Kriegs; (2)unnumbered late MO Zf-41 stock, Kriegs or standard stock; (3)transitional late unnumbered type dot stock which uses bandspring and has bayo mount but no cleaning rod hole; (4)unnumbered byf standard stock as typically found on some byf 44 K and L block rifles; (5)unnumbered E/H bnz standard stock as typically found on bnz.4 and bnz 44 N, O, and P block rifles; (6)any bnz Kriegsmodell stock either with E/H or without

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    Gotta love that Steyr quality!
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    Great gun Bob! I love the bolt sleeve. nasty. Its definitely all steyr. lol
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    That is a wonderfully crude bnz45 Bob! Nice!
    WTB: Rough milled, blued, unnumbered floor plate as found on late MO rifles. Unnumbered MO bands, both KM and standard type, MO KM stocks including an unaccepted one, MO bands and stock 5897, upper band 0643

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pisgah View Post
    Still unmistakably correct. My guess is that the bolt screw failed inspection after numbering and the unnumbered late bolt sleeve/cocking piece/safety/firing pin went in as a correction to get a functional rifle out the door. I think that Steyr likely did the same thing with unnumbered replacement bolts for the same reason. Beautiful rifle.
    Maybe, but I would think it still should have been properly numbered after the fix. From the missing alpha on the bolt, I think this is just really sloppy quality control.

    This is why bnz45 are cool. You often see something different and interesting. Nice one, Bob!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanE View Post
    Maybe, but I would think it still should have been properly numbered after the fix. From the missing alpha on the bolt, I think this is just really sloppy quality control.

    This is why bnz45 are cool. You often see something different and interesting. Nice one, Bob!
    I agree that the missing S is likely a quality control issue (or extremely light strike), but Steyr had a thing with replacing parts with unnumbered parts that the other manufacturers did not seem to do. There are too many otherwise all matching later Steyr rifles out there with unnumbered Steyr inspected bolts in them to be just a coincidence. Here's a link with a couple of them:

    http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread....lock-weirdness

    I think I have at least two more single rune Steyr rifles with unnumbered Steyr bolts. I also agree that Steyr was haphazard in the way they assembled and marked rifles. I just believe the unnumbered factory parts are sometimes more than just an accident.

    FWIW I have a bnz 43 which is completely matching as it should be (bands included) that is sitting in a completely correct, but also completely unnumbered standard, minimal cutout stock. Could be quality control. Could be a correction due to a stock issue noticed later in the assembly/inspection process, or could be a postwar collector fix. Finding the exact stock for that rifle in unnumbered form would be a chore. Not saying that it couldn't have been collector enhanced either. I recognize I am making subjective statements. For whatever reason it sure seems like I see the lack of expected numbering more on Steyrs than with any of the other manufacturers.
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    WTB/WTT: (1)late E/H marked bcd stock either standard or semi-Kriegs; (2)unnumbered late MO Zf-41 stock, Kriegs or standard stock; (3)transitional late unnumbered type dot stock which uses bandspring and has bayo mount but no cleaning rod hole; (4)unnumbered byf standard stock as typically found on some byf 44 K and L block rifles; (5)unnumbered E/H bnz standard stock as typically found on bnz.4 and bnz 44 N, O, and P block rifles; (6)any bnz Kriegsmodell stock either with E/H or without

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    I agree, the guy that got this rifle put in his hand knew the war was over, - if he wasn't sure before...

    Bob, can you do the RR and the BC? (never mind, EK, got it... would like to see the RR and whether you noted any unusual markings anywhere on the receiver, V/7, circle "M" etc..)

    Quote Originally Posted by mrfarb View Post
    Gotta love that Steyr quality!

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    Default Nice.....................

    Gotta love this one
    Metal looks like it was made from railway tracks
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    Correctly crude and strangely beautiful. Good pics of a nice rifle. Thanks for posting.

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