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    Just got my Kriegsmodell Vol. 3 yesterday. I flipped through it and saw some beautiful pictures. I own an all-matching dou44, so that was my main interest. Nice details about that rifle. I will say I am a bit disappointed with one thing; flipping through the book I found two pages dedicated to the STG44, along with pictures. While it may be interesting and historically informative to know that certain 98k factories switched production to that rifle, I bought the book to read about the late-war 98k. There are other, more detailed books on the STG44, and if I wanted to know about that rifle, I would buy them. I would have much preferred more pictures of Kriegsmodell rifles, rather than what I consider "filler" pages about the STG44. I am sure there are plenty or people on this forum, including myself, that would have been happy to send in very nice pics of their Kriegsmodell rifles for use in the book. Here's mine:

    MAUSER98KDOU44KRIEGSMODELLTRANSITIONALMATCHINGEXCBORESANDEDampREBLUEDBYVET_zpsdabae8ca.jpg

    MAUSER98K, DOU44KRIEGSMODELL, TRANSITIONAL, MATCHING, EXCBORE, SANDED and REBLUED BY VET

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    you are disappointed becaused 2 out of 400 pages involve the mp44 (which relates directly to the cessation of k98 production as you noted)? Tough crowd, hope you dont own any other k98 books!

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    I have to agree, including photos of MP44's and information was directly related and proof of the code change at Steyr to swjXE, and the JP Sauer MP44 was shown to show the use of blue finishes even on late 45 dated MP44's. The swjXE MP44's are accepted as legitimate, but many collectors disregard the swjXE 98k because they don't believe the code was real- the inclusion of that information was important. However, if that's your only gripe I guess that's a win?

    By the way, most of the photos that are submitted by collectors are not up to the quality needed for print.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfarb View Post
    I have to agree, including photos of MP44's and information was directly related and proof of the code change at Steyr to swjXE, and the JP Sauer MP44 was shown to show the use of blue finishes even on late 45 dated MP44's. The swjXE MP44's are accepted as legitimate, but many collectors disregard the swjXE 98k because they don't believe the code was real- the inclusion of that information was important. However, if that's your only gripe I guess that's a win?

    By the way, most of the photos that are submitted by collectors are not up to the quality needed for print.
    Again...who cares? confused2.gif

    The book is supposed to be about the 98k. Not the STG. And if the authors wanted nice pics, all they had to do was specify resolution and size requirements to those who wanted to submit them. I have seen plenty of pics on this forum and elsewhere that were just as good as, if not better than the pics in the book. I wonder how much of the first book has irrelevant info about non-98k rifles? Makes me hesitant to buy it. frown5.gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfarb View Post
    I have to agree, including photos of MP44's and information was directly related and proof of the code change at Steyr to swjXE, and the JP Sauer MP44 was shown to show the use of blue finishes even on late 45 dated MP44's. The swjXE MP44's are accepted as legitimate, but many collectors disregard the swjXE 98k because they don't believe the code was real- the inclusion of that information was important. However, if that's your only gripe I guess that's a win?

    By the way, most of the photos that are submitted by collectors are not up to the quality needed for print.
    As a commercial photographer, I looked at the picture posted for example by the "other" member. The lighting and lack of shadows was good, but I would never submit it for print due to low resolution, inappropriate background, and the rifle top should have been tilted more toward the camera. . Funny how he posted a pic to show what great photos you could have used, and, as an example, posted a sub-par pic.

    I know most of the pics that I post in these groups is substandard, but I've gotten lazy and use my i-Phone for personnel, non-paid, work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdibbs88 View Post
    you are disappointed becaused 2 out of 400 pages involve the mp44 (which relates directly to the cessation of k98 production as you noted)? Tough crowd, hope you dont own any other k98 books!
    Yep. I didn't pay nearly 100 samolies to see and read about an STG44. Who cares if it relates to the cessation of the 98k? Could have been two more pages of 98k pics and info. And I do own "Backbone of the Wehrmacht". Funny thing, but that book didn't feel the need to talk about guns other than the 98k.

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    What you should do it paste photos of your Kriegsmodell rifle over the Stg44 pictures.

    You might be careful about Chapter 9, it's pictures of bayonets and slings. And Ch.10 has boxes and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfarb View Post
    What you should do it paste photos of your Kriegsmodell rifle over the Stg44 pictures.

    You might be careful about Chapter 9, it's pictures of bayonets and slings. And Ch.10 has boxes and stuff.
    Actually, I scanned nice pics of 98ks from "Backbone" and stuck them over the irrelevant STG stuff. Looks quite nice.

    As to the accessories, there weren't any STG accessories, so I left them alone. Wonder why he left them off? I am sure someone wants to know what sling goes on which STG. rolleyes5.gif

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    As one of the authors of Kriegsmodell I can tell you your opinion counts. I'm printing out your suggestions on soft paper for later use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy View Post
    Yep. I didn't pay nearly 100 samolies to see and read about an STG44. Who cares if it relates to the cessation of the 98k? Could have been two more pages of 98k pics and info. And I do own "Backbone of the Wehrmacht". Funny thing, but that book didn't feel the need to talk about guns other than the 98k.
    Perhaps it does not even matter at this point but you are mistaken and completely in error regarding non-K98k content in Law's Backbone of the Wehrmacht. To be specific (and to use your words) that book apparently does "feel the need to talk about guns other than the 98k" as follows:

    - Pages 181 & 182 - Two New Semi-Automatic Rifles, the G41(M) and G41(W)

    - Pages 205 - 207 - Hitler's Fateful Commitment to the Bolt-Action Carbine (three pages with content discussing the MKb42, STGs, & MP43 assault weapons as well as the G43 semiautomatic rifle)

    The pages cited are from the Author's Revised Edition (1993)
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