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    Default Tools,cleaning kits, screwdrivers ect.

    Hello,

    Iam looking for more infos about the rifle equipment. Starting with the soldiers personal
    rifle kit and tools. Anybody here has for example a M/88 or G 98 rifle cleaning kit?
    Would be great to see some tools from your collections or manuals and documents.

    The M/71 and M/71-84 used a screw driver. Iam not sure about oil bottles. A funnel was used to pure hot water in the barrel.

    With the M/88 they changed in 1894 to oil cleaning the rifle - a pull through cord was introduced. I have no infos about a screw driver or oil bottle. Probably the M/71 type

    There is a tin box for the G 98 - resembling the RG 34 Reinigungsgeraet. Using a seperate tin lid,the box has three tin walls. One compartment for a tin oil bottle, the pull through cord in the middle and a brush.

    Any idea - any more informations???

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    Hello,
    and a HAPPY NEW YEAR!

    attached some photos showing
    WWI rifle screw driver,
    1927 dated Reichswehr pouch for rifle cleaning utilities with WWI pull through cord and wooden cleaning sticks,
    sales box for wooden cleaning sticks (1930s), (auction photos)
    tin box for rifle grease 1916. (auction photos)
    The pull through cords that came back with the Turkish Mauser rifles always have lead weights, the German cleaning cords have steel weights.
    Have never seen or heard about a tin box for G98. I only know that the German Army introduced a (pressed paper) bag in WWI.
    I'll post some drawings from a 1902 dated manual for the G98 rifle later.

    Hope this helps.
    Wolf

    How can I get the photos in the correct order?
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    Hello,
    concerning the tin box for G98, you are not talking about a box, as shown on the attached photos?
    As far as I know this one is pre WWII Dutch.
    Wolf
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    Good stuff Amberg! I'm going to pic sticky this in the photo reference thread. I've yet to figure out how to get the photos to stay in order, I think it's a problem inherent with the system.
    Order the new K98k book at www.thirdpartypress.com
    Don't forget to visit www.latewar.com for info on late war 98k's.

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    Best wishes for the new year 2011 to all of you.
    Thanks for the great infos and pics. Until now Ive thought the tin was a G98 one. Ive saw some in french museums together with german equipment.
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    Here are some more pull throughs and a puch. These survived in MG 08/15 kits.
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    Here are some screw drivers. Starting with an old M/41 Needlefire tool and screw driver blade. The M/62 Needlefire sd is a lathed round handle with an seperate blade. This was
    probably used for the M/71 too.
    A wooden handle for the blade is known too but more an armourers tool.
    The Oil bottle is needlefire too but might be used on.
    All these tools are mentioned and documented in the manuals.
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    Regarding to the M/71-84 rifle manual this new screw driver was introduced with the rifle. The blade could be folded into the handle and is fixed with a rivet. The hole is for an leather lanyard.
    These are known in two different sizes and we believe the smaller one is for the Reichsrevolver.
    Conversions of the M/62 sc using a rivet and folding blade are known too.
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    Hello,
    very nice collection! Thanks
    What do you think about the pull throughs that came with the MG08/15 kits? Looks like lead weights.
    Any markings on the bag?

    As I said before, I'm not sure about the three compartment box. But I do not think it is German WWI.
    Some more photos.
    Reichswehr bag in use.
    Dutch/G98? tin box in comparison with WWII RG34 and another unknown box (D.R.G.M. marked) that came with cleaning utilities.
    WWI armorers cleaning rod (next to G98 fencing rifle)
    box with tow / cleaning patches (probably 1930s)
    Wolf
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    Well-done Wolfgang, and I cannot think of someone who has more information on these, except perhaps CB.

    One day, if you have the time, think about doing a thread on those exercise (fencing) rifles, as they are impossible to find here. I am sure others would very much like to see your collection of these!

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