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RESEARCH PROJECT - Amberg 1916-1918

BobT is a collector that frequently lurks on the forum, keeping us honest, much like Jon Speed, he emailed me an hour ago when he noticed similar batch codes on the bolts... I had overlooked this until he brought it to my attention, but going through my database, guided by the trend sheets that referred to matching bolts, I came across a solid match (8D7) to link these batch codes on the receivers to the bolts. Here is a Amberg/17, I think it might be Wolfgang's, but not sure.


Not sure what it means as the bolt on mine (Amberg 1917 - 346f) is all matching to itself and the rifle but the bolt code is 8B7 which does not match the receiver code of 3C7.
 

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Yes, BobT says his was the same, they didn't match lots. The one i found matching was just a coincidence apparently, - until we find more examples it is impossible to say, but likely while both have batch lot numbers, or whatever these are, they do not necessarily match.
 
I have 1916 Amberg 4177 h, all matching (except cleaning rod). Only "0" on left receiver. Under receiver code "K Z" though Z is weakly stamped. BC is "KR 47" and code on bolt handle is "0" over "G" Stock has grooves and unmarked disk. Hope this helps; I will document properly with pictures but will take a week or two.
 
Thanks LD, pictures are useful when dealing with acceptance stamps (the crown over letter). I have the rifle you own recorded, an August 2013 auction, but only 4 pictures, though it did look quite nice and matching (at least the stock and bolt look right for Amberg/16)

Thanks for the report!
 
That's a tough one... but we can't blame it on the photograph, you take excellent photographs... I will leave this off the list though, as i can't decipher it.

Unders is unknown letter for me. Probably S or R ?
 
While not directly relevant, I checked my matched 1880 M71 Amberg. In the same location, I have the letter 'T'. So something similar was going on at Amberg 35 years earlier.

T
 

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1917 Amberg

Here is my example although it is an interwar upgrade bolt is stamped matching...Forgot the bottom receiver pic..that will have to come at another time
 

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Thanks RI & PM, I added the rifle to the list, - no rush on the bottom letter!
 
1917 Amberg

Thought I would contribute. Code under receiver is '8G7 - O' Code under barrel is 'G'
Hopefully the pictures are good enough to see what you need to know.

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I missed this post, but added the batch numbers today... do you have a right receiver shot? a barrel code?

Thanks

Thought I would contribute. Code under receiver is '8G7 - O' Code under barrel is 'G'
Hopefully the pictures are good enough to see what you need to know.
 
Thanks, I added the information to the thread. When you had it apart, did you also take a picture of the barrel code and fireproof?
 
Yes and I have that picture on my other thread. I didn't post it here since it wasn't amberg and you saw it
 
Not sure if you are still tracking these, but here is my 1917 Amberg:
 

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Sure I do, Amberg is a significant interest of mine, though they can be a little tedious as they rarely change patterns. They are like a state run Mauser Oberndorf, high quality and consistency.

Your rifle is actually very helpful, there was an apparent acceptance change in the c-block but yours doesn't follow it, - I am not sure how significant it is or how lasting, but this rifle kind of breaks up what I thought a block wide trend... unfortunately, only a relatively small number of reports show the needed details, the right receiver in particular, but the full range of markings you have shown are only a small fraction of the known reports (many, possibly most, are very fragmentary reports, typically from auctions).

This rifle looks like another stunner, is the stock and bolt equally fine? If so I would suggest starting an independent thread on it, I am not the only Amberg enthusiast, a very good friend of the forum would probably love to see the rifle if these pictures are representative of the whole. He lurks more than posts, a man of few words (some of us can be rather verbose..), but he often has a unique outlook or can offer answers I am less familiar with.

Not sure if you are still tracking these, but here is my 1917 Amberg:
 
I will post pictures, sadly it is a bolt and rod mismatch, but I believe the bolt is also Amberg. It has what I believe to be combat damage, but over all a nice example. Best, C
 

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