New MP40 buy !
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Meridius
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It's original as far as I'm aware. I've bought parts from him in the past. The majority of the parts he sells are original and he denotes which ones are repros.
pitfighter
Senior Member
+ 1 more for Bergflak.
That is an exciting purchase, well done!
That is an exciting purchase, well done!
Original MP40 magazines
I have a full set of MP-40 magazines plus an original loader if interested.
seth
sparidon@att.net
I have a full set of MP-40 magazines plus an original loader if interested.
seth
sparidon@att.net
KDF82
Senior Member
I'd be interested if Jack doesn't need one for his. The one on my BNZ44 is pretty beat up.. Cheers..
MP45
Well-known member
Well the one I have is little beat up too but it's better than nothing.
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
So that's it? Another historic piece just "disappears" off the books?? The gubbermint sucks sometimes... really bad
The estate could be reopened to modify the judgment which originally transferred the estate to include the MP.40. The sellers would discount the purchase price by those legal fees. Thus ATF would have the legal document for the transfer. That's my sitting here drinking Stella overlooking the bay answer.
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
I don't have a dime in the fight either but if it was my coin I'd try second and third options if possible.
Yea. There is no reason on earth that this gun should go to a museum. It's registered. Someone needs to get off their a$$ and go to district court here....
The legal issue is the transfer from the decedent who owned it to the son who sold it. Dead people legally transfer things through succession/estate proceedings and the means of legal transfer is the judgment from the court. From what I see, ATF denied the transfer to Jack because their was no legal transfer from the decedent owner to his son, Jack's transferor. This was a legally correct administrative decision. They don't have an obligation to help sort it out for us.
Thus, it appears to me that what is necessary to effectuate the legal transfer from decedent to son (Jack's transferor), which is the "broken link" in the chain, is an amended judgment from the same court which handled the estate originally, identifying the MP.40 and transferring it to Jack's transferor as heir. This is not heavy lifting. I believe that there is a certain period of time from this that the heir or estate representative may sell or transfer without a second transfer. None of this is heavy lifting and there are no other options to make this happen legally.
Thus, it appears to me that what is necessary to effectuate the legal transfer from decedent to son (Jack's transferor), which is the "broken link" in the chain, is an amended judgment from the same court which handled the estate originally, identifying the MP.40 and transferring it to Jack's transferor as heir. This is not heavy lifting. I believe that there is a certain period of time from this that the heir or estate representative may sell or transfer without a second transfer. None of this is heavy lifting and there are no other options to make this happen legally.
I agree with Hambone based on the reading of the law even if there was no will transferring the MP40 it would be based on laws of the state regarding intestate succession. The transfer would have to be done first to the rightful heir, if that is the son, he can then transfer to Jack. If the son is not the rightful heir it must first transfer to the rightful heir, then transfer to the son, then to Jack. Obviously would be cheaper and easier to purchase direct from rightful heir. The transfer to rightful heir would be on a form 5, then a form 4 to Jack. I also agree there is no reason to lose a piece of history.
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Yes, also I'm sure the owners would rather knock off the price of the legal fees to do this than receive the value of a lower tray and parts. If the heirs all agreed it should be a simple legal matter, ex-parte, without an appearance, work in the $1000-2500 range.
