Stunning very late BNZ 44

Absolut · Mar 19, 2016

Recently passing a BNZ44 which was unfortunately reblued and slightly sanded, seeing it afterwards sell quickly for € 1500, I thought I did wrong. A few days later I proofed myself wrong, by getting a call from a friend, asking whether I was interested in a K98k. I asked him which code and whether it was matching, he told me BNZ and 44, and what he can see it's matching on the few numbers that are there.

Not expecting too much I drove there to end up going home with the most stunning BNZ44 I've yet had in my hands. It is a very late BNZ44, already in the "q" block. The suffix had been stamped so sloppy on the barrel, that I at first glance thought it is an "a" - the bolt proofed me wrong. The bands are already without a serial, as is the inside of the handguard (didn't check the stock yet), but the stock is a very nice "c" marked one.

And besides I finally had a possibility to test the new arrangement in my light box now with hanging the gun in a fishing rod (instead of placing it atop of L shaped white foam), and I believe it was indeed an advance.

Hope you like this rifle as much as I do, and looking forward to any comments on it!

Absolut · Mar 19, 2016

The second and last set of pictures of this rifle.

Edit: any ideas of the maker of the sling? Haven't seen both these markings on the frog and on the buckle yet..

Warrior1354 · Mar 19, 2016

The finish is rough the stock is crisp and thats how I like my late war rifles. :biggrin1:

You did well and remember I can't saying this good rifles turn up when you least aspect it. And its usually when you don't have the money in hand lol.

Bigdibbs88 · Mar 19, 2016

Very very nice and not an easy find!

ClintJ · Mar 19, 2016

Nice one! Is that something peeking out under the buttplate?

flynaked · Mar 19, 2016

Very nice, I have a bnz45 q block not too much later. Very nice find congrats!

grimlin13 · Mar 20, 2016

ClintJ said:
Nice one! Is that something peeking out under the buttplate?

That`s the fishing line it`s suspended with best as I can tell. The other appears to be right behind the front band.

CanadianAR · Mar 20, 2016

Nice one!!

Twin to my bnz44, 500 numbers earlier, other then the stock.

http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?19821-bnz44-2596q

Absolut · Mar 20, 2016

CanadianAR said:
Nice one!!
Twin to my bnz44, 500 numbers earlier, other then the stock.
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?19821-bnz44-2596q

Looking at those pictures, right between somewhere of our two rifles they dropped the first two digits on the bolt shroud. Funny that 500 rifles later they came back from the Kriegsmodell stock to a normal stock with takedown disc.

Does anyone have an idea of the manufacturer of my sling, and what the "6" on the frog means?

CanadianAR · Mar 20, 2016

Well it wasn't totally linear so min could have been completed later. Hard to say. Odd that it just has the last two on the shroud, that wasn't the norm, must have been short lived, as its 4 digits all the way to the end.

mrfarb · Mar 20, 2016

The sling keeper is made by Christof Neuner, usually see that Oakleaf 9 marking on holsters, google that name and you will find info.

On the 2 digit cocking piece, yours is not normal to have just 2 digits but it's not renumbered, just a factory anomaly there. Neat rifle, full C stock in the middle of Kriegsmodell stock made guns. Even has the same phosphate triggerguard set like the other bnz44 q blocks.

ClintJ · Mar 20, 2016

grimlin13 said:
That`s the fishing line it`s suspended with best as I can tell. The other appears to be right behind the front band.

Ahh, I see said the blind man!

Dave Roberts · Mar 20, 2016

Nice Rifle Georg , some say there is not a lot gems left in Europe/Germany but it seems there maybe be more than some are aware of . Best Regards.

USCS03 · Mar 20, 2016

Beautiful rifle!! It never ceases to amaze me what shows up in late war rifles. The pressures of a quickly shrinking frontline, constant bombing pressure and wartime economy certainly caused many an anomaly. Thanks for sharing and congrats on a very nice rifle.

zf498 · Mar 21, 2016

6 is 9 and niner is Neuner

Does anyone have an idea of the manufacturer of my sling, and what the "6" on the frog means?[/QUOTE]

Could the "6" actually be a "9" that was used as a logo used by Christof Neuner on leather products. Neuner made P.38 holsters, both hard and soft shell.

zf498 · Mar 21, 2016

Sorry, did not see thread #11. Late to the party and redundant again.

Absolut · Mar 22, 2016

Upon Pauls/Loewes request, some detail pictures of the markings below the wood, and of the bolt.

Absolut · Mar 22, 2016

Second set of pictures as per Pauls request.

Absolut · Mar 22, 2016

.. And unfortunately it seems I did exactly one too much .. so this is the last and single picture, showing how crudely the bolt handle has been bent.

Loewe · Mar 22, 2016

Thanks Georg, very helpful. Details of the bolt acceptance and marking pattern is important because only a relative few have been "thoroughly-comprehensively" trended. The same regarding the V7 correction, only a relative few have been so thoroughly examined to be sure some lack this marking. Some have, but not enough to be certain that this is only a correction stamp. For many years it was associated with "SS", but sometime ago this was discounted, now we know, or can be reasonably sure it was only a correction stamp.

You have a very nice rifle, with a few unusual features. At least so far as my trends suggest. But I agree it is totally authentic.

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