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    Thanks again, Stan. I'm giving the penetrating oil a try. As for price, I agree that Gander is outrageous on new guns, etc. This one came in just north of $600 after I talked them in to knocking off a little bit for the bolt mismatch. I know they didn't have much of an idea of what they had on the rack. I also picked up a 1941 K31 and a Yugo M24/47 from them. The K31 was a particularly good deal at $250 for a nice walnut stocked version with no beaver chew on the butt and a troop tag. The 24/47 was full of cosmoline, has a pristine bore, and is going to be my range gun in 8mm.

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    Finally got my DOU 44 fully taken down with thanks to penetrating oil and heat (not at the same time). The inside channel of the stock is marked "phf" and also what looks like an "8" and an "F." I haven't had much luck getting a decent picture.

    The sight base is stamped "98" with an "M" or "W" towards the receiver on the bottom. The base of the barrel where it meets the receiver is marked "G O dou" and then two Waffenamt 180 stamps.

    I'm adding some pictures, with apologies in advance for the quality. Any thoughts on value overall? I want to keep this one for the long haul, just interested in how I did on my first K98 purchase.

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    Not a bad price.

    The waffenamt is actually e/A80.

    Brunn II is one of the only makers, maybe the only to number the sight sleeve.
    Looking for 10" cleaning rod, early style e/214 #91, nazi style e/26 #04

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
    The dou rifles with the semi-Kriegsmodell stock are usually found with recycled VZ 24 stock disc type spanner screws that had the two holes in the head. A slot was added to allow a flat head screwdriver to be used. The original screws are often lost and replaced over the years.
    dou 45 055.jpg


    This is the band screws that Stan was talking about. You can compare it to yours.
    Thanks, Lee

    Looking for the matching stock to my S/42 1937 sn.5199 q. It was sold on ebay 2014. WTB or WTT for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerlee View Post
    dou 45 055.jpg


    This is the band screws that Stan was talking about. You can compare it to yours.
    Thanks, Lee. Unless they sometimes cut the slot through the holes instead of between them, mine is just a chewed up old replacement wood screw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAD141 View Post
    Thanks, Lee. Unless they sometimes cut the slot through the holes instead of between them, mine is just a chewed up old replacement wood screw.

    Yes that is true. Here is another picture which the slot is through the holes.dou 45 054.jpg

    These are off the dou 45 I use to have.
    Thanks, Lee

    Looking for the matching stock to my S/42 1937 sn.5199 q. It was sold on ebay 2014. WTB or WTT for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAD141 View Post
    Thanks, Lee. Unless they sometimes cut the slot through the holes instead of between them, mine is just a chewed up old replacement wood screw.
    The slot BETWEEN the holes is correct for late 44 dou's ff / gg block and on. I mean from hole to hole. o-----o , like that..
    Last edited by ac556; 01-30-2019 at 08:58 AM. Reason: clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAD141 View Post
    I'm new to the board and milsurp collecting. I just picked up my first K98k today. It is a DOU 44 that I found at my local Gander Mountain and am hoping it was an ok buy.

    Serial number on the left side of the barrel is 4498 gg, which I believe makes it a late 1944 production gun from Bystrica. Wa80 marking above DOU on the receiver ring. Lxr marked follower that is stamped and blued. Magazine housing marked byf with Wa135. No markings on the trigger guard.

    No cleaning rod or bayonet lug. The firing pin disassembly disk is in the stock. No serial numbers on the floor plate or barrel bands. The rear sight has two digit "98" on both the base and leaf. No import mark that I can see, no RC number on the stock, and no markings peened.

    The bolt is a mismatch. It is a straight handle bolt in the white that appears to be from a Vz.24 or other Czech rifle. Serial number is 2526H3, and it has a rampant lion on the knob. It has circle Z stamps on the safety flag , the cocking piece, and the bottom of the bolt handle. It is also marked S3 on the bottom of the handle.

    Pictures attached. Thanks in advance for any thoughts/comments.

    Best regards,
    Paul
    It appears that your trigger guard and floor plate ARE correct for your gun. my dou 44 gg block looks exactly the same. Do you have any pics of the whole rifle and closeups of the front end of it ? I would be interested in purchasing a good correct stock.

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    Sorry for the delayed reply. I havenít had this one out of the safe in a while and donít have any great pictures. Iíll see what I can do. Any specific requests for the front end pictures?


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    yes, just the front end, showing the bands and screws. I have an all matching, non import rifle except that bubba fixed the stock.. I know your bolt is mismatched, but sounds like the rest is good to go.. Would you be interested in selling the whole rifle, or work a deal / trade on the stock. If interested, please PM to discuss, Thanks ...




    Quote Originally Posted by PAD141 View Post
    Sorry for the delayed reply. I havenít had this one out of the safe in a while and donít have any great pictures. Iíll see what I can do. Any specific requests for the front end pictures?


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