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Mauser Banner and Standard Modell Serials and Data,RFV data

1. 1933 DRP 59929 (509929 in butt roundel). Bolt mismtach at 9923, but seems an Oberndorf error (the small 3 and 9 look VERY similar). No regional marking. All matching otherwise. Ex-USA (Karem Collection :thumbsup:)

2. 1933 DRP 53295 (503295 in butt roundel). Bolt mismatch, but with proper BU proofed bolt, all matching otherwise (BU bolt matches itself entirely). DRP HNVR marked frosch well (Hannover). Ex-USA, Gunbroker purchase 2012.
 
60976 DRP Hamburg cartouche is 66630 Mauser banner 1933

60976 DRP Hamburg cartouche is 66630 Mauser banner 1933 , all matching numbers.



Hey guys I will update this thread as new data is received. I will also try and keep it clean with no clutter. You can post data or email me direct at bruce98k@hotmail.com. I delete the direct posts with just SN data and keep any ones dealing in features or unique aspects. Thanks.

Thanks to PAUL SHOMPER (Graf) for submitting a huge pile of SNs. You are the man!!

RC denotes Russian Capture.

1933:

0262 DR
0321 DR, numbers on handle
0605 DR, numbers on handle
0852 DR, numbers on handle
1176 DR
1569 DR, unit marked 15.69. (numbers on handle)
1845 DR, unit marked Bz.15.238 (cancelled 13.345)(bolt SN on handle)
1880 DR, GB May 2010 (numbers on handle)
1927 DR, unit marked Bz.15.90 (cancelled 13.427)(bolt MM, Gunbroker Ranchill)

Ed note: Gap here likely represents Chinese 1933 export models, likely 'B' prefix result of use of standard series for in country.

50315 DRP Rec Side Mark "Standard Modell 1924", city code DRP Kbg Schw (cartouche 500315)
50323 (RC) Rec Side Mark "Standard Modell 1924"
50550 DRP Rec Side Mark "Standard Modell 1924", x out Bln in sling well (Berlin police)
50617 DRP Rec Side Mark "Standard Modell 1924"
51000 DRP Rec Side Mark "Standard Modell 1924", sling well city code is Kosl (Koslin)
51312 DRP Rec Side Mark "Standard Modell 1924", no city code, cartouche is 501312
52537 DRP
52643 DRP Eft. (Erfurt)
54675 DRP Brsl. (Breslau)
55760 DRP
56098 Action in MM Stock, DRP 604909
56429 Action only
56561 DRP, SchW. (Schweinfurt), Bolt numbers on handle (stem)
56617 DRP Bln., (Berlin) Disk Added
57853 DRP Eft, Stock 507853
58306 DRP, Stock 508306 (w/vet inscribed plaque) GB 11/09
59667 DRP, Poulin 2/08
59763
59770
59810 DRP, Kln (Koln) stamped on left side sling well (unusual location)
59862, DRP, matched; sling; Mauser muzzlecover, issued to Minden. Captured at Beilefeld.
60100 DRP DRP & Mind stamped in keeper well,no TD,matched,bolt # on stem, mauser marked muzzle cover, sling.
61117 DRP
61581 Disk Added, Unit mark 5.A.R.4.97
62082 DRP
62239 DRP
63064 DRP, Stock # 603064, SN on handle
63493 Action only.
63643 DRP
63858 DRP
63862 DRP Dssd. (Dusseldorf), SN on handle
63939 DRP
63941 RC
64268 DRP, stock disk added, depot mark Eagle Nmg4 (Bolt SN on handle), Stock 604268

1934:

65346 DRP, (Kbg city code), SN on bolt top
65473 DRP
65863
66064
66381 DRP Gunboards Mauser Forum 7/08 (Kbg City code)
66407 SN on bolt handle
66563 DRP (DRP Gmb in sling well - Gumbinnen, bolt SN top)
67863 DRP (DRP Klrh in sling well - Karlsruhe)
68221 DRP
68490 DRP, SN on bolt handle (GB Oct. 09) Matched, Cartouche No. 68490
68714 DRP, SN on bolt handle (AA June 2010), Cartouche No. 68714

/** Around this point and up to end, takedown disk and diamond proof added, end of DRP issue **//
70743 DP, MM
71599 Ch.d.a w/DP, TD(Ranchill item)
72726 Ch.d.a w/DP, TD
74338 Ch.d.a w/DP, TD Bolt MM (0637)
74748 Ch.d.a Gunbroker 2/08 MM
75779 RC
75988 Ch.d.a w/DP,TD (MM bolt)
76610 Ch.d.a w/DP,TD, bolt SN top
76920 Ch.d.a w/DP,TD, bolt SN top
77028 Ch.d.a w/DP,TD
78111 DP
78132 Ch.d.a w/DP,TD, bolt SN top
78164 Ch.d.a w/DP,TD, bolt SN top
79168 Ch.d.a Stock only
79468
80089 RC
80521 RC, diamond proof
80980 DP, bolt SN top
82387 RC, diamond proof
83015 Diamond Proof
83101 Diamond Proof, TD Disk,Matched
86213 Ch.d.a, DP, TD
86600 Ch.d.a, DP, TD (cut down)
87246
87657 DP, Sanded stock
87688 Ch.d.a, DP, TD
88156 Takedown disk
89238 Diamond Proof
89241 MM, Diamond Proof
89684 Disk, Poulin 2/08
90342 RC, diamond proof
90776 BGS stamped on stock
91823 Diamond Proof
92270 Stock mismatch - Chda (see 79168)
92493
92725 DP
92862 DP,TD
94208 TD
94777 MM Stock, Poulin 2/08
T83980 RC
T83268 RC, Cowans Auction

NOTE: DP denotes 'Diamond Proof', TD denotes takedown disk


At this point it looks like a total production of around 55-56000 Banners
used for internal distribution and not for export.



Ed note 1: It looks like the diamond proof appeared
in the early 70K block and was used on all successive
guns.

Note 2: Chda appears from 70K to high 80s, putting
the numbers for that variant at about 17K. For whatever reason, high numbered 1934 Banners > 80K
do not have the stamp.

Ed note 12/13/08: While the range is from 70K to high 80s, it is not known if all the Banners issued in that range were ChdA marked.
More complete data will help - especially verified matching non-ChdA examples in this range.


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Railway issue series:

Revised 5/19/08:
The 'c' series continues after rollover DR series in 1934 (authors revised view).
Judging from SNs, the series for the Deutsche Reichsbahn was a separate run with most
of the higher range used for export to China.

Notes from 5/25/07:.
It certainly looks that way as the data develops. The big gomer would be a 'c' prefix DR Banner lower than the highest 1933 SN. We will see what falls out.

1933:

0262 DR
0312 DR, numbers on handle
0605 DR, numbers on handle
0852 DR, numbers on handle
1176 DR
1424 DR, numbers on handle (Mauser 99)
1845 DR, unit marked Bz.15.238 (cancelled 13.345)(bolt SN on handle)
1880 DR, numbers on handle
1927 DR, unit marked Bz.15.90 (cancelled 13.427)(bolt MM, Gunbroker Ranchi
C2032 DR (1933 Rec)., numbers on handle.

Note: Apparent rollover of SN with leading C prefix added in late 1933.

1934:
C2405 DR, GB 1/10
C2474
C2574 DR Rock Island 12/07
C2991 DR #'s on handle
C2992 DR #'s on handle
C3095 DR, Gunbroker 2/07, numbers on handle
C3147 MM w/bolt C3267
C3156 DR SBR63 on Buttplate
C3316 MM Stock.

C3567 No data

GrBB:
C11373 Gr.B.B. Matching, Numbers on bolt handle
C12052 Stock Assy, Complete Ebay Gr.B.B

Non-Attributed German Used:
C12499 Numbers on handle, BU proofed,std. German issue Banner
C12593 Numbers on handle, German issue Banner


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/The following examples were based on unused Banner receivers that were diverted to std. K98 1941 production/

byf41 Banner:

6207bb (RC)
473dd (RC)
6795dd (RC)
1960ee (RC)
8990ee (RC)
9629ee (RC)
1876ff
2284ff
2505ff (RC)
2844hh (RC)
4603hh
5246hh
5495hh (MRJ April 2007)
6014hh (Collector submitted 10/09)
6396hh

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/*NOTE: Now actively adding export SNs for China and Ethiopia contracts */

Std. Modell:

A2070 Ethiopia Poulin 2/08

16393 Blank Siderail, Barrel code 156.14 (MRJ 200)
27865 Standard Modell 1924 Rail, 1933 Rec. (likely Chinese)
36391 Standard Modell 1924 Rail, 1933 Rec. (likely Chinese)
45365 Standard Modell 1924 Rail, 1933 Rec. (no-prefix, Chinese issue)

B 8531 Chinese Issue
B10145 Standard Model 1924, has TD, Banner 1934 Rec. matched.
B21696 Ethiopia/China divert, Banner 1934 Rec. Side wall Std. Modell 1924
B24522 Ethiopia/China divert, Banner 1934 Rec. Side wall Std. Modell 1924
B26861 Ethiopia Contract rifle,Banner 1934 Rec., Reference only for export range.
B38489 Sandard Modell on receiver rail, imported from China
B40089 Sporterized
B40277 MM
B41238 Isrl.rebuild
B41499
B44098 Bolt MM Gunbroker
B46410 Narrow G98 style rear band with G98 band spring.
B49603
B51721 Chinese issue
B52332
B52427
B52491, bolt mm, narrow rear band and short G98 band spring
B52742
B56078
B56313 Israeli Rebuild
B56345
B56796
B57424 Cut down, internet auction
B58694 Bolt mm, Barrel code 36Si33
B58922
B59016 Bolt mm
B60713
B61330
B62026
B62150
B64159 Scrubbed S/42 1937 Rec.
B65818 Gunbroker 3/27
B66066 ZF41?
B66359 OGCA 7/08
B66678
B70139
B70337
B72040
B72140 Scrubbed S/42 1937 Rec.
B72237
B72998 Scrubbed S/42 1937 Rec.
B73504 Bolt MM
B75584 Converted to side sling, 98k front end hardware.
B77292
B78113
B82143 E/655 Top Rec., E/H and E/655 stock side.
B82231
B82833


Chinese K98 Contract:

C2013 1933 Banner Rec.
C6592 Import
C14018 Import, Auction Arms 2/08
C16545
C19834
C25251 Laminated stock
C29615 Backbone, Scrubbed 1937 Rec.
C34703 Scrubbed 1937 Rec. Bolt MM, Laminated
C36489
C85661 Import (possible 35661)

2969
1824a Barrel Code 38S203
4580a Ball, 4th Ed.
5691a
314b
9009b Backbone
6504c Ebay stock,parts
9764c
3432d Action only
8512d Gunboards 4-10 Import
9093d
1025e
5621e
5990e
9222e, Banner K98k, Nationalist Chinese sun on barrel and receiver
9684e
9690e Laminated, bolt MM NI (Brocks June 08)


Note: Additional numbers for Chinese K98s from MRJ May2007

Chinese Banner K: Note reclassified under Chinese K98K


Note: A good percentage of C prefix also released as German issue Banners (BU proofed)


;Added 3/21/10
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RFV data

Code Year SN RFV Weapon Number Notes

S/27 G 1935 2303 RFV 2073 BBOTW
S/42 1936 6684t RFV 359
S/42 1936 9326t RFV 209
S/147/k 1934 sn 4724 RFV 1676
S/147/k 1934 sn 817 RFV 1975
S/27 G 1935 sn 4808 RFV 2114
243 1938 sn 594i RFV 3151
S/147K sn 971 RFV 982 - lmd-militaria.com

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This is the image section - I will be adding representative pics of markings and features.
Once complete, I will attempt to put a legend together for IDs on the each pic.
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Last edited by Bruce98k; 01-13-2010 at 10:02 PM. Reason: Added data
 
1934 Banner

I have a 1934 Banner, SN 87245 Dimond, The bolt is not numbered. The rear sight matches and has a Eagle/655 waffen amt. The walnut stock matches, has a take down ring, has a Mauser Banner by the ring, has Eagle/WAa63 in 5 places, Eagle/211 on the round metal bolt that goes under the reciever, bands match. It looks like a K98 war time stock, not a standard or banner stock.

Any ideas? RC? rework?

Thanks in advance!
Regards,
 
Local gun store has a sporterized Standard Modell B72645. Stock has been cut just in front of the lower band so it is even with the front of the handguard. The side of pistol grip has been sanded so there is a groove between the pistol grip and the buttstock. Metal is all-matching but it has been nicely reblued. There is an 8 MM marking on the side of the barrel. Price is $399.
 
Standard Modell 98 DRP 1933, all matching, SN 57568, Kssl. (Kassel). Found in France. No cleaning rod, no sling
 
Another Banner

I don't know what year, perhaps 1934. It has a Mauser banner on the receiver ring, and Standard Modell on the left side receiver rail. Serial number is B39297. The numbers are not matching, except for barrel and receiver, and it is in light colored wood. The proofs are civilian, and there are no martial markings on it at all. It is configured in a manner similar to a GEW 98, with the hooked upper band and the dual position rear sling loops (trigger guard and bottom of stock). The bolt handle is straight, and it is in quite good condition, with no import markings.
 
1934 Banner

Just nabbed this last weekend.
1934 Mauser Banner, s/n C 2939, DR in circle with s/n on stock. ALL matching. BUG proofed. No takedown disc.
Really nice shape. If anyone is interested, will post photos .
A question-- What is the technical description of this model. K 98 a, b, whatever?

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1934 Banner Mauser RC

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78482 .... Ch.d.a w/DP,TD, bolt SN top.

All matching. Pawn shop find.
 

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Sporterized Chinese Contract Banner, bought on Gunbroker
S/N C33461
Barrel had been recontoured by Bubba, so no S/N or barrel code on barrel.
Straight handle bolt
 
Hello,

I have a Standard Modell short rifle with a straight bolt. I has the Mauser Tonne (banner) on top of the receiver and STANDARD-MODELL on the side rail.

Receiver, barrel, rear sight and trigger guard assembly all have the same B 43553 serial number. There are 4 proofmarks on the receiver: Crown over U, over B, over G and over N. The bolt has an other serial number, the imperial eagle and Crown over D proofmark.

If you need more information for your research, just ask.
 
Hi i have standard modell ghost receiver (s/42 1937) SN B63434 all matching
Under the barrel 36Do359 waa63 and BUGN proofs
 
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1936 with Spanish bolt. B58415
 

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