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S/147/G #3064f

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I have S/147/G #3064f. The rifle matches except for the short cleaning rod, which is #90 and appears to have an Eagle/63 WaA. The bore is very good. The stock is correctly numbered inside and out. The handguard is numbered inside. The only unusual thing about this rifle is the number on the band spring. The full number, 3064, is on the back of the spring, facing the stock instead of on the side facing up.
I will be taking photos for Mike and will post them.
I bought this rifle 6 years ago from David Condon in Middleburg, VA. It is the oldest matching K98k I have seen, personally. I would love to see others.

Ogtree
 

I have S/147/G #3064f. The rifle matches except for the short cleaning rod, which is #90 and appears to have an Eagle/63 WaA. The bore is very good. The stock is correctly numbered inside and out. The handguard is numbered inside. The only unusual thing about this rifle is the number on the band spring. The full number, 3064, is on the back of the spring, facing the stock instead of on the side facing up.
I will be taking photos for Mike and will post them.
I bought this rifle 6 years ago from David Condon in Middleburg, VA. It is the oldest matching K98k I have seen, personally. I would love to see others.

Ogtree

Wow, pretty close. I have s/147/G 2071 F....bolt MM.
 

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1939-147 5362h
All matching inside and out. Stock and handguard stamped inside and an "L" and WaA37 on stock behind the buttplate. Here are a few pics, hope it helps:
 

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S147G 2985d variant III , purchased from son of vet who brought it back, no d/c.

All matching with exception of cleaning rod which has no # but has the S & K stamp @ the end.

Has a Sauer muzzle cover ,but it has diff serial #.

Nice bore, nice metal, butt stock pretty dinged up.
 

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S/147/G #3064f Photos


Here are some photos of S/147/G #3064f. Everything matches but the cleaning rod, which has #90 and what I think is an E/63 acceptance.
 

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More photos of S/147/G # 3064f
 

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Last photos of #3064f
 

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1938 jp sauer

bruce i own a 1938 jp sauer s-147 all matching except bolt mm but matches itself and 1o inch rod numbered 49 instead of 25 . serial #6325 no letter suffix . matching parts include stock annd fore arm trigger gaurd plate screws butt plate both upper and lower bands rear sights numbered correctly but walter e/359 inspected . both reciever and barrel have droop eagle stamps all other parts e/214 marked . sling marked on buckle d&c . the stock is walnut as is the hand guard but is shiney. bought this k98 from the son of vet that brough it home no duffle cut . non import mark . i have know for 25 years in the town i live. although the vet has died . i do not have the capablie to take pictures yet sorry. ed ps a little late for kriegsmodell but i also byf44 2914-h total mismactched , reciever unnumbered , barrel seril# both e/135 inspected . ed
 
My list, again Farb has full data sheets...

1937 S/147 9405 m

1942 ce (slant) 605 c

1942 ce (slant) 6472 s

1943 ce (block) 3836 ff
 
1940 J.P Sauer & Son, serial number: 1892T, barrel matches.

She is a Russian capture and is mis-matched but she is in excellent condition. She shoots great too.
 
Questions

I am new to this site and new to MOD 98K so some question may be lame.
I have recently purchased a RC. I have learned that it is S/147 1937 SN 7721. It appears to be a mix master, currently it is with my gunsmith being looked at.
I am confused about ammo, when I shop for ammo I see 8mm/57mm muauser and aslo 8mm/57mm .323
dia. what is the difference?
when the Germans rebarreled thier rifles did they always stamp the SN on the side of the barrel? is there
anyway to tell what year the barrel was made? the bore on mine looks real good and matchs SN to the
reciever.
The SN on the bolt does not match the reciever is this problem?(well there is an eched SN on the safety.
I am used to the M1 garand where mix match parts is not a real issue.
Thanks for any help you can give me
John
 
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Hey TA is that a "v?" If it is and the rifle is a 147, 1938, that would be the new high serial.
 
I was thinking "c" block, as much as anything because of the BC which is darn early (compared to the other 4 documented..); the manner in which it is arranged (BC) is the later style though.

Is this an S/147 receiver or just 147? How is the receiver serialed? Is the suffix clearer?

Anyway, thanks TA, much appreciated! Now I have 5 147/38's BC recorded!

Hey TA is that a "v?" If it is and the rifle is a 147, 1938, that would be the new high serial.
 
What about O block?

s/147
It is e/214 x 3
and e/214 on all parts less rear site which is e/359



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From what has been documented, an "o" block wouldn't have the "S" prefix code (S/147), as S&S seems to drop the "S" around the g-i block (latest with S/147 is an early "g" block, next rifles are 2 "i" blocks, one very early, and neither have the "S" prefix, -neither do any rifles after them, however I do think there was some overlap to the change)

The numerous e/214 is also good sign of an “c” block, as an “o” block would usually have some e/37, as that was roughly the transition from e/214 to e/37 acceptance.

I would say the rifle is an "c" block, and that is why I asked if it has an "S" prefix code as we know roughly when S&S dropped the "S" prefix, and it would eliminate "o" and "v" if it had the "S/147” (imo of course)

Anyway, great addition to my files! Early rifles are hard to get BC off of!


What about O block?

s/147
It is e/214 x 3
and e/214 on all parts less rear site which is e/359



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I was thinking "c" block, as much as anything because of the BC which is darn early (compared to the other 4 documented..); the manner in which it is arranged (BC) is the later style though.

Is this an S/147 receiver or just 147? How is the receiver serialed? Is the suffix clearer?

Anyway, thanks TA, much appreciated! Now I have 5 147/38's BC recorded!


OK. Looking at the new pics in post 17 I have to agree that it is a "c" block. That and the fact that it has an s prefix in the code. I was thrown off by the first set of pics.
 

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