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J.P. Sauer K98k Serials and Data, 1934-1944

When the rifle was in 1945 beside the stock repair in good condition, the Norwegians could chose it.

Personally, I would take the 147 1940. Like you said, the offered 147 1939 has more mixed parts and the floorplate manufactured by Astrawerke is in addition force matched.

Aah....... you've clearly worked out who has them then by that last statement :biggrin1:

And yes, on the proviso that the bore is good enough, I had already said yes to the '40 one based on first look, even with my sparse knowledge of K98's.
 
S/147/g

S/147/G. A wartime rework (2011 c). Hand guard is laminate, but numbered to the rifle. Matched except the following un-numbered parts: follower, trigger guard screws, band spring, and cleaning rod. Has the Nazi proofed proofed barrel and sight hood. It has a rework proof in the wood, and one of these days I'll get around to taking a decent picture of it.

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Marking on CE44 Stock

Hello,

I found this markings under my 98 buttplate.
Can someone identify the "phd" stamp under the manufacture date?
Best regards

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Hello,

it's the stock completion date code and "phd" is a unknown laminate supplier code. The code means April 21, 1944.

Some more photos of your rifle would be nice.

Regards,
Stephan
 
Hello,

it's the stock completion date code and "phd" is a unknown laminate supplier code. The code means April 21, 1944.

Some more photos of your rifle would be nice.

Regards,
Stephan

Thank you Stephan, I have already posted some photos in this section; and at the moment I'm not at home.
 
Do you know what that a means? I have no idea

Pre-1943, the Germans would make K98ks in blocks of 10000 rifles, with serial #s 1-9999. Once rifle 9999 was made, they would reset the serial to 1, with an a, resulting in serial 1a. This was known as a-block. a-block was serials 1a-9999a. Once 9999a was made, the letter was incremented to b, making b-block. This would repeat until z-block was hit. Once 9999z was made, the serial was reset to aa-block, resulting in 1aa-9999aa.
 
Pre-1943, the Germans would make K98ks in blocks of 10000 rifles, with serial #s 1-9999. Once rifle 9999 was made, they would reset the serial to 1, with an a, resulting in serial 1a. This was known as a-block. a-block was serials 1a-9999a. Once 9999a was made, the letter was incremented to b, making b-block. This would repeat until z-block was hit. Once 9999z was made, the serial was reset to aa-block, resulting in 1aa-9999aa.

Nice to know! Thanks
 
bcd 4 reciever completed by Sauer.

Serial number 3517 N

Sporterized now (will bring back to correct configuration with late wat Sauer parts)

Barreled action blued 3517n
Bolt blued 3517
Firing pin white 3517
Extractor blued unnumbered
Bolt sleeve blued 3517
Bolt spring white
Magazine well stamped byf marked with capture screw holes blued unnumbered
Mag follower blued stamped lxr unnumbered
Mag spring blued unnumbered
Base plate milled 3517 blued

When restored with correct parts it will be updated.
 
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bcd 4 reciever completed by Sauer.

Serial number 3517 N

Sporterized now (will bring back to correct configuration with late wat Sauer parts)

Barreled action blued 3517n
Bolt blued 3517
Firing pin white 3517
Extractor blued unnumbered
Bolt sleeve blued 3517
Bolt spring white
Magizine well stanped byf marked with capture screw holes blued unnumbered
Mag follower blued (fxo maybe? Will correct leter) unnumbered
Mag spring blued unnumbered
Base blate milled 3517 blued

When restored with correct parts it will be updated.

Your correct serial number is "3517w". There are no bcd 4 receiver in the Sauer "n" block.
 
Heres my JP Sauer

147 Code. Produced in 1938 by JP Sauer. All matching (462) except for bolt.
 

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1944 J.P. Sauer & Sohn Serial Number 5887l

OK, guys and gals...

A friend of mine's uncle was in the Army and went to England, down south through the country and across to Normandy, (after the invasion,) and eventually his unit got bogged down in the Battle of the Bulge. After that was settled, he ended up going east and his long fight ended in Cologne. Before he got on his transport to go home, he went to a giant weapon dump to grab some gear and have it sent home. Ah, the good old days... He grabbed a few things... but one of the rifles was this K98, and he just grabbed a bayonet and scabbard to have the set. He forgot the cleaning rod, which is still missing. Anyhoo, I offered to give it a preservation cleaning, (only removing rust and a wipe with a light coat of oil on the metal,).
I gave the bore a brushing and a lot of swabs, and then a light coat of oil.

The action is smooth, the condition what I'd call "fine" ~50% bluing above the stock line. Minor rust which easily wiped away. Bore is dark but sharp; minor pitting near muzzle.

Stamped with eagle and Heer between bolt tool and butt.
I'll add more pics as I can.


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Hrm, I can't add more pictures, and this website keeps logging me off for no reason.

Is there a photo hosting site as good as what photobucket USED to be? Now, they limit uploads and smear a stamp over images.
Blecch.
 
CE 42 514

all matching mint condition

Maybe you could start a new thread with many pictures of your Sauer & Sohn, it's a beautiful example. From the "no letter" block we don't have a example in the Picture Reference Index, in my opinion it deserve a place there.
 

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