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Clips - ladestreifen 8x57 and 8x33 1934 - 1945 code list

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^29 / ^30 / ^31 / ^32 / ^33 / ^34
P / 37 P / 38 P / P 39 / P 40
P 25 / P 25 37 / P 25 38 / P25 - 39 / P25 40
P28 / P28 g / P28 – 36 / P28 – 37 / P28 – 38 / P28 – 39
P131 / P131 K / P131 – 40
P154 – 37 / P154 – 38 / P154 – 39
P208K / P208G / P208.36 / P208.37 / P208.38 / P208.39 / P208.40 / P208.41 / P208.4
P315 / P315 37 / P315 38 / P315 39 / P315 40
P327.36 / P327.37. / P327.38. / P327.39. / P327.40.
P340.36 / P340.37 / P340.38 / P340.39 / P340.40
P400/36 / P400/37 / P400/38 / P400/39 / P400/40
P416 / P416 – 37 / P416 – 38 / P416 – 39 / P416 – 40
P490 38 / P490 39
66C 40
P635 – 39 / P635 – 40
35P.423 / 36P.423 / 37P.423 / 38P.423 / 39P.423 / P423/40
274A22
90F/40
3E / 3E/40
5E/40 / 5E/41 / 5E/42
5F/42
38G-40
452 A 4 -40
496a - + 740 / 496a - 54 / 96a - 54740
A 37
aah 40 /aah-41
afs 40
ak 40 / ak 41
am 41
aux 41
40-awj
bwa/41
B 35
C – cwa – 44 / C - cwa - 45
dza 40 / dza 41 / dza - 42 / dza - 43 / dza 44 / C - dza 44
dou 43 / dou 44 / dou45
DWM / DWM-36
exq/40 / exq/41 / exq/42 / exq/43 / exq/4 / exq/44
40 eds / 41 eds / 43 eds / C – 44 eds / eds 44 / 4 eds
flp - 41 / flp - 43 / C - flp - 43 / C – flp – 44
ghx/43 / ghx/44
hhw.41 / hhw43 / hhw44 / C – hhw44 / C - hhw 45
hre 43 / hre 44 / hre 4 / C-hre 44 / C-hre 45
hrh 43 / C-hrh 43 / C-hrh 44
mpu-43 / mpu-44 / mpu c - 44 / C-mpu-45
nxc-43
qdh/45
seh 45

Again many thanks Herr Berg !!!!!!!!
Why codes from year 42 are so scarce or inedit like for example hhw 42?
 
Clips Ladestreifen 8x57 und 8x33

Again many thanks Herr Berg !!!!!!!!
Why codes from year 42 are so scarce or inedit like for example hhw 42?[/QUOTE]

Because the Waffenamt in 1941 believed,that the war is over in short time and they need no more ammo .
They canceled a lot of the orders for 1942.


I found annother clip afv 40.

Norbert
 

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^29 / ^30 / ^31 / ^32 / ^33 / ^34
P / 37 P / 38 P / P 39 / P 40
P 25 / P 25 37 / P 25 38 / P25 - 39 / P25 40
P28 / P28 g / P28 – 36 / P28 – 37 / P28 – 38 / P28 – 39
P131 / P131 K / P131 – 40
P154 – 37 / P154 – 38 / P154 – 39
P208K / P208G / P208.36 / P208.37 / P208.38 / P208.39 / P208.40 / P208.41 / P208.4
P315 / P315 37 / P315 38 / P315 39 / P315 40
P327.36 / P327.37. / P327.38. / P327.39. / P327.40.
P340.36 / P340.37 / P340.38 / P340.39 / P340.40
P400/36 / P400/37 / P400/38 / P400/39 / P400/40
P416 / P416 – 37 / P416 – 38 / P416 – 39 / P416 – 40
P490 38 / P490 39
66C 40
P635 – 39 / P635 – 40
35P.423 / 36P.423 / 37P.423 / 38P.423 / 39P.423 / P423/40
274A22
90F/40
3E / 3E/40
5E/40 / 5E/41 / 5E/42
5F/42
38G-40
452 A 4 -40
496a - + 740 / 496a - 54 / 96a - 54740
A 37
aah 40 /aah-41
afs 40
afv 40
ak 40 / ak 41
am 41
aux 41
40-awj
bwa/41
B 35
C – cwa – 44 / C - cwa - 45
dza 40 / dza 41 / dza - 42 / dza - 43 / dza 44 / C - dza 44
dou 43 / dou 44 / dou45
DWM / DWM-36
exq/40 / exq/41 / exq/42 / exq/43 / exq/4 / exq/44
40 eds / 41 eds / 43 eds / C – 44 eds / eds 44 / 4 eds
flp - 41 / flp - 43 / C - flp - 43 / C – flp – 44
ghx/43 / ghx/44
hhw.41 / hhw43 / hhw44 / C – hhw44 / C - hhw 45
hre 43 / hre 44 / hre 4 / C-hre 44 / C-hre 45
hrh 43 / C-hrh 43 / C-hrh 44
mpu-43 / mpu-44 / mpu c - 44 / C-mpu-45
nxc-43
qdh/45
seh 45

Again and again Fantastic Herr Berg !!!!
Makes sense, I didn't know it, I always thought that it was due the big defeats of that year!
:hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail:
 
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^29 / ^30 / ^31 / ^32 / ^33 / ^34
P / 37 P / 38 P / P 39 / P 40
P 25 / P 25 37 / P 25 38 / P25 - 39 / P25 40
P28 / P28 g / P28 – 36 / P28 – 37 / P28 – 38 / P28 – 39
P131 / P131 K / P131 – 40
P154 – 37 / P154 – 38 / P154 – 39
P208K / P208G / P208.36 / P208.37 / P208.38 / P208.39 / P208.40 / P208.41 / P208.4
P315 / P315 37 / P315 38 / P315 39 / P315 40
P327.36 / P327.37. / P327.38. / P327.39. / P327.40.
P340.36 / P340.37 / P340.38 / P340.39 / P340.40
P400/36 / P400/37 / P400/38 / P400/39 / P400/40
P416 / P416 – 37 / P416 – 38 / P416 – 39 / P416 – 40
P490 38 / P490 39
66C 40
P635 – 39 / P635 – 40
35P.423 / 36P.423 / 37P.423 / 38P.423 / 39P.423 / P423/40
274A22
90F/40
3E / 3E/40
5E/40 / 5E/41 / 5E/42
5F/42
38G-40
452 A 4 -40
496a - + 740 / 496a - 54 / 496a - 54740
A 37
aah 40 /aah-41
afs 40
afv 40
ak 40 / ak 41
am 41
aux 41
40-awj
bwa/41
B 35
C – cwa – 44 / C - cwa - 45
dza 40 / dza 41 / dza - 42 / dza - 43 / dza 44 / C - dza 44
dou 43 / dou 44 / dou45
DWM / DWM-36
exq/40 / exq/41 / exq/42 / exq/43 / exq/4 / exq/44
40 eds / 41 eds / 43 eds / C – 44 eds / eds 44 / 4 eds
flp - 41 / flp - 43 / C - flp - 43 / C – flp – 44
ghx/43 / ghx/44
hhw.41 / hhw43 / hhw44 / C – hhw44 / C - hhw 45
hre 43 / hre 44 / hre 4 / C-hre 44 / C-hre 45
hrh 43 / C-hrh 43 / C-hrh 44
mpu-43 / mpu-44 / mpu c - 44 / C-mpu-45
nxc-43
qdh/45
seh 45
 

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^29 / ^30 / ^31 / ^32 / ^33 / ^34
P / 37 P / 38 P / P 39 / P 40
P 25 / P 25 37 / P 25 38 / P25 - 39 / P25 40
P28 / P28 g / P28 – 36 / P28 – 37 / P28 – 38 / P28 – 39
P131 / P131 K / P131 – 40
P154 – 37 / P154 – 38 / P154 – 39
P208K / P208G / P208.36 / P208.37 / P208.38 / P208.39 / P208.40 / P208.41 / P208.4
P315 / P315 37 / P315 38 / P315 39 / P315 40
P327.36 / P327.37. / P327.38. / P327.39. / P327.40.
P340.36 / P340.37 / P340.38 / P340.39 / P340.40
P400/36 / P400/37 / P400/38 / P400/39 / P400/40
P416 / P416 – 37 / P416 – 38 / P416 – 39 / P416 – 40
P490 38 / P490 39
66C 40
P635 – 39 / P635 – 40
35P.423 / 36P.423 / 37P.423 / 38P.423 / 39P.423 / P423/40
274A22
90F/40
3E / 3E/40 / 3E 41
5E/40 / 5E/41 / 5E/42
5F/42
38G-40
452 A 4 -40
496a - + 740 / 496a - 54 / 496a - 54740
A 37
aah 40 /aah-41
afs 40
afv 40
ak 40 / ak 41
am 41
aux 41
40-awj
bwa/41
B 35
C – cwa – 44 / C - cwa - 45
dza 40 / dza 41 / dza - 42 / dza - 43 / dza 44 / C - dza 44
dou 43 / dou 44 / dou45
DWM / DWM-36
exq/40 / exq/41 / exq/42 / exq/43 / exq/4 / exq/44
40 eds / 41 eds / 43 eds / C – 44 eds / eds 44 / 4 eds
flp - 41 / flp - 43 / C - flp - 43 / C – flp – 44
ghx/43 / ghx/44
hhw.41 / hhw43 / hhw44 / C – hhw44 / C - hhw 45
hre 43 / hre 44 / hre 4 / C-hre 44 / C-hre 45
hrh 43 / C-hrh 43 / C-hrh 44
mpu-43 / mpu-44 / mpu c - 44 / C-mpu-45
nxc-43
qdh/45
seh 45
 

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^29 / ^30 / ^31 / ^32 / ^33 / ^34
P / 37 P / 38 P / P 39 / P 40
P 25 / P 25 37 / P 25 38 / P25 - 39 / P25 40
P28 / P28 g / P28 – 36 / P28 – 37 / P28 – 38 / P28 – 39
P131 / P131 K / P131 – 40
P154 – 37 / P154 – 38 / P154 – 39
P208K / P208G / P208.36 / P208.37 / P208.38 / P208.39 / P208.40 / P208.41 / P208.4
P315 / P315 37 / P315 38 / P315 39 / P315 40
P327.36 / P327.37. / P327.38. / P327.39. / P327.40.
P340.36 / P340.37 / P340.38 / P340.39 / P340.40
P400/36 / P400/37 / P400/38 / P400/39 / P400/40
P416 / P416 – 37 / P416 – 38 / P416 – 39 / P416 – 40
P490 38 / P490 39
66C 40
P635 – 39 / P635 – 40
35P.423 / 36P.423 / 37P.423 / 38P.423 / 39P.423 / P423/40
274A22
90F/40
3E / 3E/40 / 3E 41
5E/40 / 5E/41 / 5E/42
5F/42
38G-40
452 A 4 -40
496a - + 740 / 496a - 54 / 496a - 54740
A 37
aah 40 /aah-41
afs 40
afv 40
ak 40 / ak 41
am 41
aux 41
40-awj
bwa/41
B 35
C – cwa – 44 / C - cwa - 45
CK 35
dza 40 / dza 41 / dza - 42 / dza - 43 / dza 44 / C - dza 44
dou 43 / dou 44 / dou45
DWM / DWM-36
exq/40 / exq/41 / exq/42 / exq/43 / exq/4 / exq/44
40 eds / 41 eds / 43 eds / C – 44 eds / eds 44 / 4 eds
flp - 41 / flp - 43 / C - flp - 43 / C – flp – 44
ghx/43 / ghx/44
hhw.41 / hhw43 / hhw44 / C – hhw44 / C - hhw 45
hre 43 / hre 44 / hre 4 / C-hre 44 / C-hre 45
hrh 43 / C-hrh 43 / C-hrh 44
mpu-43 / mpu-44 / mpu c - 44 / C-mpu-45
nxc-43
qdh/45
seh 45
 

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^29 / ^30 / ^31 / ^32 / ^33 / ^34
P / 37 P / 38 P / P 39 / P 40
P 25 / P 25 37 / P 25 38 / P25 - 39 / P25 40
P28 / P28 g / P28 – 36 / P28 – 37 / P28 – 38 / P28 – 39
P131 / P131 K / P131 – 40
P154 – 37 / P154 – 38 / P154 – 39
P208K / P208G / P208.36 / P208.37 / P208.38 / P208.39 / P208.40 / P208.41 / P208.4
P315 / P315 37 / P315 38 / P315 39 / P315 40
P327.36 / P327.37. / P327.38. / P327.39. / P327.40.
P340.36 / P340.37 / P340.38 / P340.39 / P340.40
P400/36 / P400/37 / P400/38 / P400/39 / P400/40
P416 / P416 – 37 / P416 – 38 / P416 – 39 / P416 – 40
P490 38 / P490 39 / P490 40
66C 40
P635 – 39 / P635 – 40
35P.423 / 36P.423 / 37P.423 / 38P.423 / 39P.423 / P423/40
274A22
90F/40
3E / 3E/40 / 3E 41
5E/40 / 5E/41 / 5E/42
5F/42
38G-40
452 A 4 -40
496a - + 740 / 496a - 54 / 496a - 54740
A 37
aah 40 /aah-41
afs 40
afv 40
ak 40 / ak 41
am 41
aux 41
40-awj
bwa/41
B 35
C – cwa – 44 / C - cwa - 45
CK 35
dza 40 / dza 41 / dza - 42 / dza - 43 / dza 44 / C - dza 44
dou 43 / dou 44 / dou45
DWM / DWM-36
exq/40 / exq/41 / exq/42 / exq/43 / exq/4 / exq/44
40 eds / 41 eds / 43 eds / C – 44 eds / eds 44 / 4 eds
flp - 41 / flp - 43 / C - flp - 43 / C – flp – 44
ghx/43 / ghx/44
hhw.41 / hhw43 / hhw44 / C – hhw44 / C - hhw 45
hre 43 / hre 44 / hre 4 / C-hre 44 / C-hre 45
hrh 43 / C-hrh 43 / C-hrh 44
mpu-43 / mpu-44 / mpu c - 44 / C-mpu-45
nxc-43
qdh/45
seh 45
 

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^29 / ^30 / ^31 / ^32 / ^33 / ^34
P / 37 P / 38 P / P 39 / P 40
P 25 / P 25 37 / P 25 38 / P25 - 39 / P25 40
P28 / P28 g / P28 – 36 / P28 – 37 / P28 – 38 / P28 – 39
P131 / P131 K / P131 – 40
P154 – 37 / P154 – 38 / P154 – 39
P208K / P208G / P208.36 / P208.37 / P208.38 / P208.39 / P208.40 / P208.41 / P208.4
P315 / P315 37 / P315 38 / P315 39 / P315 40
P327.36 / P327.37. / P327.38. / P327.39. / P327.40.
P340.36 / P340.37 / P340.38 / P340.39 / P340.40
P400/36 / P400/37 / P400/38 / P400/39 / P400/40
P416 / P416 – 37 / P416 – 38 / P416 – 39 / P416 – 40
P490 38 / P490 39 / P490 40
66C 40
P635 – 39 / P635 – 40
35P.423 / 36P.423 / 37P.423 / 38P.423 / 39P.423 / P423/40
274A22
90F/40
3E / 3E/40 / 3E 41
5E/40 / 5E/41 / 5E/42
5F/42
38G-40
452 A 4 -40
496a - + 740 / 496a - 54 / 496a - 54740
A 37
aah 40 /aah-41
afs 40
afv 40
ak 40 / ak 41
am 40 / am 41
aux 41
40-awj
bwa/41
B 35
C – cwa – 44 / C - cwa - 45
CK 35
dza 40 / dza 41 / dza - 42 / dza - 43 / dza 44 / C - dza 44
dou 43 / dou 44 / dou45
DWM / DWM-36
exq/40 / exq/41 / exq/42 / exq/43 / exq/4 / exq/44
40 eds / 41 eds / 43 eds / C – 44 eds / eds 44 / 4 eds
flp - 41 / flp - 43 / C - flp - 43 / C – flp – 44
ghx/43 / ghx/44
hhw.41 / hhw43 / hhw44 / C – hhw44 / C - hhw 45
hre 43 / hre 44 / hre 4 / C-hre 44 / C-hre 45
hrh 43 / C-hrh 43 / C-hrh 44
mpu-43 / mpu-44 / mpu c - 44 / C-mpu-45
nxc-43
qdh/45
seh 45
 

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^29 / ^30 / ^31 / ^32 / ^33 / ^34
P / 37 P / 38 P / P 39 / P 40
P 25 / P 25 37 / P 25 38 / P25 - 39 / P25 40
P28 / P28 g / P28 – 36 / P28 – 37 / P28 – 38 / P28 – 39
P131 / P131 K / P131 – 40
P154 – 37 / P154 – 38 / P154 – 39
P208K / P208G / P208.36 / P208.37 / P208.38 / P208.39 / P208.40 / P208.41 / P208.4
P315 / P315 37 / P315 38 / P315 39 / P315 40
P327.36 / P327.37. / P327.38. / P327.39. / P327.40.
P340.36 / P340.37 / P340.38 / P340.39 / P340.40
P400/36 / P400/37 / P400/38 / P400/39 / P400/40
P416 / P416 – 37 / P416 – 38 / P416 – 39 / P416 – 40
P490 38 / P490 39 / P490 40
66C 40
P635 – 39 / P635 – 40
35P.423 / 36P.423 / 37P.423 / 38P.423 / 39P.423 / P423/40
274A22
90F/40
3E / 3E/40 / 3E 41
5E/40 / 5E/41 / 5E/42
5F/42
38G-40
452 A 4 -40
496a - + 740 / 496a - 54 / 496a - 54740
A 37
aah 40 /aah-41
afs 40
afv 40
ak 40 / ak 41
am 40 / am 41
aux 41
40-awj
bwa/41
B 35
C – cwa – 44 / C - cwa - 45
CK 35
dza 40 / dza 41 / dza - 42 / dza - 43 / dza 44 / C - dza 44
dou 43 / dou 44 / dou45
DWM / DWM-36
exq/40 / exq/41 / exq/42 / exq/43 / exq/4 / exq/44
40 eds / 41 eds / 43 eds / C – 44 eds / eds 44 / 4 eds
flp - 41 / flp - 43 / C - flp - 43 / C – flp – 44
ghx/43 / ghx/44
hhw.41 / hhw43 / hhw44 / C – hhw44 / C - hhw 45
hre 43 / hre 44 / hre 4 / C-hre 44 / C-hre 45
hrh 43 / C-hrh 43 / C-hrh 44
mpu-43 / mpu-44 / mpu c - 44 / C-mpu-44 / C-mpu-45
nxc-43
qdh/45
seh 45
 

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I don't see these on your list. Anyone familiar with them? rze44 and rze45
 

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^29 / ^30 / ^31 / ^32 / ^33 / ^34
P / 37 P / 38 P / P 39 / P 40
P 25 / P 25 37 / P 25 38 / P25 - 39 / P25 40
P28 / P28 g / P28 – 36 / P28 – 37 / P28 – 38 / P28 – 39
P131 / P131 K / P131 – 40
P154 – 37 / P154 – 38 / P154 – 39
P208K / P208G / P208.36 / P208.37 / P208.38 / P208.39 / P208.40 / P208.41 / P208.4
P315 / P315 37 / P315 38 / P315 39 / P315 40
P327.36 / P327.37. / P327.38. / P327.39. / P327.40.
P340.36 / P340.37 / P340.38 / P340.39 / P340.40
P400/36 / P400/37 / P400/38 / P400/39 / P400/40
P416 / P416 – 37 / P416 – 38 / P416 – 39 / P416 – 40
P490 38 / P490 39 / P490 40
66C 40
P635 – 39 / P635 – 40
35P.423 / 36P.423 / 37P.423 / 38P.423 / 39P.423 / P423/40
274A22
90F/40
3E / 3E/40 / 3E 41
5E/40 / 5E/41 / 5E/42
5F/42
38G-40
452 A 4 -40
496a - + 740 / 496a - 54 / 496a - 54740
A 37
aah 40 /aah-41
afs 40
afv 40
ak 40 / ak 41
am 40 / am 41
aux 41
40-awj
bwa/41
B 35
C – cwa – 44 / C - cwa - 45
CK 35
dza 40 / dza 41 / dza - 42 / dza - 43 / dza 44 / C - dza 44
dou 43 / dou 44 / dou45
DWM / DWM-36
exq/40 / exq/41 / exq/42 / exq/43 / exq/4 / exq/44
40 eds / 41 eds / 43 eds / C – 44 eds / eds 44 / 4 eds
flp - 41 / flp - 43 / C - flp - 43 / C – flp – 44
ghx/43 / ghx/44
hhw.41 / hhw43 / hhw44 / C – hhw44 / C - hhw 45
hre 43 / hre 44 / hre 4 / C-hre 44 / C-hre 45
hrh 43 / C-hrh 43 / C-hrh 44
mpu-43 / mpu-44 / mpu c - 44 / C-mpu-44 / C-mpu-45
nxc-43
qdh/45
rze 44 / rze 45
seh 45

Many thanks, never seen before, please check it well as many fakes are done today from blank clips with laser............
 
The clips I posted came from a batch of 1949 dated Czech 8mm ammunition that was sealed in a crate. Among them were also several dou44 and dou45 clips. Out of the entire crate of 900 rounds, there were five dou marked clips and three rze marked clips. The rest were blank nickel plated clips. I can post better pictures of the clips if needed. Thanks.
 
Producer

Your list is awesome, but do you have any data what P208 stands for? I mean the producer. I couldn't find anything about that in the Internet. Could it possibly be Polte A.G.?
 
P codes

Your list is awesome, but do you have any data what P208 stands for? I mean the producer. I couldn't find anything about that in the Internet. Could it possibly be Polte A.G.?

generally, all “P” codes designated other factories producing ammo, Polte was the only one authorized to do so under the Versailles treaty. According to an internet source, ‘P208’ was Kassel, alpha code ‘fsa’.
 
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^29 / ^30 / ^31 / ^32 / ^33 / ^34
P / 37 P / 38 P / P 39 / P 40
P 25 / P 25 37 / P 25 38 / P25 - 39 / P25 40
P28 / P28 g / P28 – 36 / P28 – 37 / P28 – 38 / P28 – 39
P131 / P131 K / P131 - 39 / P131 – 40
P154 – 37 / P154 – 38 / P154 – 39
P208K / P208G / P208.36 / P208.37 / P208.38 / P208.39 / P208.40 / P208.41 / P208.4
P315 / P315 37 / P315 38 / P315 39 / P315 40
P327.36 / P327.37. / P327.38. / P327.39. / P327.40.
P340.36 / P340.37 / P340.38 / P340.39 / P340.40
P400/36 / P400/37 / P400/38 / P400/39 / P400/40
P416 / P416 – 37 / P416 – 38 / P416 – 39 / P416 – 40
P490 38 / P490 39 / P490 40
66C 40
P635 – 39 / P635 – 40
35P.423 / 36P.423 / 37P.423 / 38P.423 / 39P.423 / P423/40
274A22
90F/40
3E / 3E/40 / 3E 41
5E/40 / 5E/41 / 5E/42
5F/42
38G-40
452 A 4 -40
496a - + 740 / 496a - 54 / 496a - 54740
A 37
aah 40 /aah-41
afs 40
afv 40
ak 40 / ak 41
am 40 / am 41
aux 41
40-awj
bwa/41
B 35
C – cwa – 44 / C - cwa - 45
CK 35
dza 40 / dza 41 / dza - 42 / dza - 43 / dza 44 / C - dza 44
dou 43 / dou 44 / dou45
DWM / DWM-36
exq/40 / exq/41 / exq/42 / exq/43 / exq/4 / exq/44
40 eds / 41 eds / 43 eds / C – 44 eds / eds 44 / 4 eds
flp - 41 / flp - 43 / C - flp - 43 / C – flp – 44
ghx/43 / ghx/44
hhw.41 / hhw43 / hhw44 / C – hhw44 / C - hhw 45
hre 43 / hre 44 / hre 4 / C-hre 44 / C-hre 45
hrh 43 / C-hrh 43 / C-hrh 44
mpu-43 / mpu-44 / mpu c - 44 / C-mpu-44 / C-mpu-45
nxc-43
qdh/45
rze 44 / rze 45
seh 45
 

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I bought a box with over 50 German pre-/WWII clips, unfortunately all marks were already on your list.

I did find some marks which I can't find, I'm not sure if these are German manufacture.

Best regards Tommy
us1945@hotmail.com

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The brass one could be czechoslovak Zbrojovka Pov.Bystrica production.
until now I’d believed those were of Turkish manufacture, probably because I’ve seen them most often with Turkish ammunition. I have 6 or so, & have found them to be entirely non-magnetic. It was Tommy’s post (US1945) in this thread that lead me to learn that prewar P marked “brass” clips are in fact brass plated steel, and not brass shells with steel springs.
thank you both for the education!
 

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