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RESEARCH PROJECT - Kar.88 production

Loewe

Moderator²
Staff member
To augment the projects inspired by Craig Brown regarding the Mod.71, Mod.71/84 and Gew.91 variations, I have decided to add a study for the kar.88. This is a simple project designed to trend the characteristics of known Kar.88 production. The criteria needed is as follows:

1. The maker, date and full serial number.
2. Right receiver acceptance pattern, it is preferred that a picture be provided to aid in proper identification of fraktur letter. While it is not important to identify the actual letter with precision, it is important to maintain continuity of the changes.
3. Full Siderail designation
4. Modification markings.
5. Unit markings if any, or if absent (including cancelled, most slingbands are cancelled)
6. Barrel code if available


Key to markings:

nm= neues material
S = S chambering
z = z rifling
*=obscured-unknown



ERFURT

1890 Erfurt 8846 - “S” B.2.U.2.76. (slingband) (CB-2011)
1890 Erfurt 3512 a – report
1890 Erfurt 5892 a - "S" 6.R.4.122 (slingband), 16.D.*.130 (muzzle) (CB-2011)
1890 Erfurt 5096 d - RR-NA, “.” “Z” “S”, 14.H.2.101 (slingband) (FP on left receiver)
1890 Erfurt 5445 d - C/W C/C C/C, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88
1890 Erfurt 7349 d - RR-NA (indistinct), “S” SR-Kar.88
1890 Erfurt 2441 n - C/W C/C(C/RC) C/C, “.” “Z”, SR- Kar.88/n.m, E.T.IV.18 (muzzle)

1890/91 Erfurt 2395 a - "S" SR- Kar.88, 15.H.5.60 (SB)
1890/91 Erfurt 2808 a - - C/W C/L C/L, “S”, SR- Kar.88 15.H.4.56 (SB)(GF-Amberg barrel)
1890/91 Erfurt 3512 a - "S" 15.H.1.33 (CB-2011)
1891 Erfurt 2172 f - C/H(C/RC) C/E C/H, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88, B.1.U.R.3.15 (muzzle)
1891 Erfurt 8073 f - B.5.Ch.1.40 (Noll)

1893 Erfurt 1990 - C/H C/E C/E, "." "Z" "S", SR- Karr.88 / n.m., 3.H.4.38 (muzzle) (BC-n.m. KK 2 C/L x3 (FP Receiver)
1893 Erfurt 1399 - 9.R.H.4.28 (Noll)
1893 Erfurt 1555 - 18.D.5.33 (Noll)
1893 Erfurt 2033 - C/H C/E C/E, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m, 16.D.6.125 (muzzle) 4.R.D.4.20 (slingband)
1893 Erfurt 1176 a - C/H C/B C/H (indistinct), “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m, B.2.U.2.107 (muzzle) (Kr on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 6911 b - B.2.s.R.3.46 (Noll)
1893 Erfurt 7342 e - C/H C/E C/E, “.” / “Z” / “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., 20.U.5.126 (muzzle) (W on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 4299 f - RR-NA, SR- Kar.88 / n.m (B on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 6563 f - B.5.Ch.2.107 (muzzle) (CB-2011)
1893 Erfurt 6750 f - C/D C/C C/B, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m, B.5.Ch.2.13 (muzzle)
1893 Erfurt 7031 f - B.1.U.R.1.63 (Noll)
1893 Erfurt 7166 f - C/H C/C C/B, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88, B.1.U.R.5.94 (muzzle)
1893 Erfurt 7510 f - C/H C/B C/B, ".", SR- Kar.88 / n.m., (B on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 8014 f – C/D C/H C/H, “.”(B on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 8066 f – C/D C/B C/H (indistinct), “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88, B.6.Ch.5.? (muzzle)
1893 Erfurt 8163 f - C/D C/B C/B, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m
1893 Erfurt 8218 f - C/H C/B C/B, “.”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.3.Ch.2.75. (muzzle) (B on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 8290 f - C/D C/B C/B, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.3.Ch.4.18 (muzzle) B.3.Ch.3.18 (slingband) (B on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 8395 f - SR- Kar.88 n.m., B.3.Ch.2.84 (muzzle) (CB-2011)
1893 Erfurt 9307 f - C/D C/B C/B, “.” “S”, SR- n/a
1893 Erfurt 9539 f - RR-NA, SR- Kar.88 / n.m, (B on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 9816 f - RR-NA, SR- Kar.88, SR- B.II.E.F.2.28 (HH)
1893 Erfurt 559 g - B.3.Ch.5.11 (Noll)
1893 Erfurt 648 g – RR-NA (indistinct), “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., (B on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 789 g - C/H C/B C/B, “.”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.2.U.1.92. (muzzle) (B on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 805 g - C/H C/B C/B, “.” "S", SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.2.E.F.2.5. (siderail) (B on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 973 g - RR-NA, “.” "S", SR- Kar.88 / n.m. (Kr left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 1022 g - C/H C/B C/B, “.” "S", SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.2.U.3.39. (muzzle) (Kr left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 1176 g - C/H C/B C/B, “.” "S", SR- Kar.88 / n.m. B.2.U.2.107(muzzle) (Kr left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 2231 g - C/D C/B C/B, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., 1.Ch.2.85 (muzzle) (Kr on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 2243 g - RR-NA, “.” “S”, 1.Ch.1.104 (muzzle)
1893 Erfurt 2671 g - C/H C/B C/T, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m, 1.Ch.3.45 (muzzle) (Kr on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 2922 g - C/D C/B C/T, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m, B.2.U.1.115. (muzzle) (An on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 2976 g - C/D C/B C/T, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., (Erfurt barrel- C/Ex3 Neues Material Krupp) (Kr on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 3221 g - C/D C/B C/T, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.1.s.R.1.63 (muzzle) (Kr on left receiver)(bolt flat-C/E)
1893 Erfurt 3523 g - RR-NA, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.1.T.E.3.28 (muzzle) (Kr on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 6911 g - RR-NA, “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m. B.2.S.R.3.46 (report)
1893 Erfurt 7331 g - RR-NA, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m. (An on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 7666 g - C/D C/B C/D, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.4.Ch.5.84 (muzzle) (Kr on left receiver)
1893 Erfurt 7861 g - C/H C/B C/B, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m, B.6.Ch.1.59 (muzzle)
1893 Erfurt 7967 g - C/D? C/B C/B, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m.
1893 Erfurt 8393 g - C/H C/B C/B, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m, B.2.U.5.15 (muzzle)(Erfurt barrel- Neues Material Krupp)
1893 Erfurt 8524 g - C/H(C/RC) C/B C/B, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.2.Ch.2.54. (muzzle) (Erfurt barrel- Neues Material Krupp)
1893 Erfurt 8533 g - C/H C/B C/B, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.2.U.5.79. (muzzle)

1894 Erfurt 657 a - C/D C/E C/E, “.” “Z” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m 5.U.5.76 (muzzle) (FP on left receiver)
1894 Erfurt 7419 a - C/H C/D C/D, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m 12.A.F.9.126 (slingband) (barrel – “nm.BB / 22)
1894 Erfurt 1294 b - 9.D.1.120 (Noll)
1894 Erfurt 5870 b - RR-NA, “.” “Z” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m (report - CB)
1894 Erfurt 894 g - 1.Ch.4.22 (Noll)

1895 Erfurt 5083 - C/H C/C C/N, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m. 15.U.4.102 (muzzle)
1895 Erfurt 570 g - C/H C/B C/B, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m. (B on left receiver)


1896 Erfurt 5724 a - RR-NA , “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m. (barrel n.m. K.K)
1896 Erfurt 6671 a - C/E C/Z C/Z , “.” “S”, SR- NA
1896 Erfurt 6052 b - C/E C/H C/L, “.” “Z” “S”, SR- Kar.88 n.m. R.F.C.3.1. (muzzle)

1897 Erfurt 6480 - C/E C/H C/B, “.” “Z” “S”, SR- Kar.88 n.m.



DANZIG

1892 Danzig 434 - B.1.s.R.3.3 (Noll)



C.G. HAENEL, SUHL

1890 CGH 5386 - C/H C/H “S”, SR- Kar.88, 18.D.2.21 (buttplate flat & slingband) C/C-C/S TG & bolt body
1890 CGH 1362 a - (report) 1920 property marked
1890 CGH 1785 a - “S” SR-Kar.88, 18.D.3.61 (slingband), C/S TG
1890 CGH 2041 a - L.G.1220 (Noll)
1890 CGH 2098 a - (report)
1890 CGH 2895 a - C/H C/H “S”, SR- Kar.88, 6.D.4.135 (slingband) 6.D.39 (muzzle) (CGH barrel - #93 C/H x3) C/H TG
1890 CGH 4890 a - L.G.2979 (Noll)
1890 CGH 6964 b - 16.D.58 (Noll)
1890 CGH 4000 c - B.U.3.80 (Noll)
1890 CGH 4076 c - C/H C/G C/H “S”, SR- Kar.88, B.4.Ch.4.(slingband) B.3.Ch.4.49 (muzzle) C/S TG & bolt body
1890 CGH 5080 c - 1.Ch.2.35 (Noll)
1890 CGH 969 d - C/H C/H C/H “S”, B.3.Ch.3.81 (muzzle)
1890 CGH 977 d - C/H C/G C/H “S”, SR- Kar.88, B.5.Ch.R.4.58. (slingband) B.1.U.R.5.64. (muzzle) C/S TG
1890 CGH 1898 d - B.6Ch.R.5.75 (linedout), B.5Ch.1.19 (Noll)
1890 CGH 1958 d - C/H C/H C/H “S”, SR- Kar.88,B.1.S.R.3.42 (slingband-cancelled) B.R.A.M.4.9. (muzzle), Bolt & TG-C/S
1890 CGH 3079 d - C/H C/H C/H “S”, SR- Kar.88, 6.R.H.4.13 (slingband) 16.D.129. (muzzle) C/S TG & bolt body (CGH barrel #79 C/H x3)
1890 CGH 3261 d - C/H C/H C/H “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.2.U.8.29 (slingband) B.3.T.B.12. (muzzle) CS TG & bolt body
1890 CGH 4090 d - C/H C/H C/H “S”, SR-Kar.88 / n.m, B.2.U.2.12 (HH)
1890 CGH 190 e - C/H C/H C/H “.” / “S”, SR- Kar.88 / n.m., B.2.U.3.99 (slingband) B.3.T.P.1.14 (muzzle) C/S TG
1890 CGH 272 e - C/H C/H C/H “S”, SR-Kar.88
1890 CGH 463 e - C/H C/H C/H “S”, SR-Kar.88, B.2.U.2.12 (muzzle) C/S slingband
1890 CGH 2694 e - C/H C/H C/H “S”, SR-Kar.88, (muzzle/NC m/m) FP left receiver
1890 CGH 8961 e - 17.D.4.91 (Noll)
1890 CGH 873 f - C/H C/H C/H “S”, SR-Kar.88, 2.K.4.17. (muzzle)
1890 CGH 2290 f - C/H C/H C/H “S”, SR-Kar.88
1890 CGH 2918 f - “S”, 12.D.4.71 (slingband) (CB-2011/ Noll serial 2981 f) Zielkarabiner

1891 CGH 3956 - B.T.7.6 (Noll)
1891 CGH 684 g - 15.H (Noll)
1891 CGH 4263 h - 8.T.L.1.7 (Noll)
1891 CGH 6189 h - C/H C/H C/H, “.” “S”, SR-Kar.88 (CGH barrel #89 W C/H x3)

1892 CGH 6758 d - “S”, SR-Kar.88, 2.T.L.4.3. (slingband) C/S TG
1892 CGH 5765 e - “S”, SR-Kar.88, B.1.T.P.6.22 (muzzle & slingband) 6.R.A.R.5.B.87 buttplate flat) C/S TG & bolt (barrel-CGH #65 C/Hx3)
1892 CGH 7161 e - C/E C/F C/H, “S” SR—Kar.88, B.2.U.1.43 (muzzle) C/S bolt & TG (barrel—“W” C.G.H. #61 C/Hx3).
1892 CGH 7675 e - “S” B.2.T.B.31 (slingband), R.R.B.C.2.31. (muzzle) (CB-2011)
1892 CGH 7992 e - C/E C/F C/H, "S" SR-Kar.88, B.I.M.II.1.23 (slingband)
1892 CGH 8555 e - B.2.T.B.2.100 (Noll)
1892 CGH 9161 g - 16.D.3.44 (Noll)
1892 CGH 2455 h - R.B.13.26 (Noll)
1892 CGH 4799 h – “.” “S” SR-Kar.88, B.II.E.F.5.36 (siderail) (cancelled units muzzle, slingband & SR)
1892 CGH 5256 h – C/E C/F C/H, “.” “S” SR-Kar.88, (BC- CGH / C/H x3 / 56) B.2.T.P.7.31 (slingband), 12 B.3.T.B.10 (muzzle)
1892 CGH 5362 h – C/E C/F C/H, “.” “S” SR-Kar.88, (BC- CGH / C/H x3 / 62) B.2?.T.P.8.10 (slingband-canceled), B.2.T.P.5.18 (muzzle)
1892 CGH 882 i - “S” 9.R.1.2. (slingband), 2.K.3.33 (muzzle) Police “B.H.167” (left receiver) (CB-2011)



V.C. SCHILLING

1890 VCS 5546 - C/H C/G “S”, SR- Kar.88, A.M.XIV.8.20 (muzzle), 14.D.1.88 (slingband-x'd out)
1890 VCS 8626 - L.G.1441 (slingband) (CB)
1890 VCS 8738 - SR-Kar.88, L.G.2070 (slingband) (has “K” style marking on top of receiver)
1890 VCS 9735 - "." "S", L.G. 1788 (slingband) (has “K” style marking on top of receiver) (CB report)
1890 VCS 6114 a - 15.D.4.103 (linedout) 4.T.I.29 (linedout) L.K.468 (linedout) T.R.514 (Noll)
1890 VCS 7942 a – report
1890 VCS 1473 b - B.4.Ch.2 (linedout), B.1.U.R.1 (Noll)
1890 VCS 1608 b - “S” SR- Kar.88, B.5.Ch.R.5.4 (report)
1890 VCS 2634 b - 6.A.F.9.216 (linedout), L.G.4998 (Noll)
1890 VCS 3203 c - “.” “S” B.2.U.1.44 (report)
1890 VCS 8614 c - B.6.Ch.4.9
1890 VCS 445 d - C/H C/G C/G “S”, SR- Kar.88, 1.Ch.4.20 (muzzle) B.6.Ch.2.65 (slingband) C/S TG, bolt, rearsight
1890 VCS 512 d – “S” B.2.S.R.4.44 (slingband) (CB-2011)
1890 VCS 4409 d—C/H C/G C/G, "S", SR-Kar.88, 12.D.4.55 (slingband) (Mauser08)
1890 VCS 4837 d—C/H C/G C/G, “.” “S”, SR—Kar.88/n.m., B.2.U.4.101 (slingband) B.3.T.B.202 (muzzle) C/S TG, bolt body, barrel jacket (barrel—GF #837 n.m.BB C/Wx3)
1890 VCS 8550 d – C/H C/G C/G “S” B.R.A.M.8.23 (muzzle-indistinct) B.2.Ch.5.103 (slingband-indistinct) C/S TG
1890 VCS 9536 d - C/H C/G C/G “S”, SR- Kar.88, B.2.U.5.69 (slingband) C/S TG
1890 VCS 1545 e- C/H C/G C/G “S”, SR- Kar.88 B.E.P.D.III.21 (muzzle) B.2.U.5.104 (SB-cancelled)
1890 VCS 1002 f - C/H C/G C/G “S”, SR- Kar.88, 4.H.46 (muzzle & slingband)

1890-91 VCS 2748 d - C/H C/G C/G “S”, SR- Kar.88, 15.H.5.12 (slingband), C/S TG, rearsight, buttplate & bolt
1890-91 VCS 3243 e - “S”, SR- Kar.88, C/S TG & buttplate

1891 VCS 3048 c - C/E C/G C/S "S", SR- Kar.88 (Runner)
1891 VCS 5712 c - C/E C/G C/S "S", SR- Kar.88, G.R.F.45.32 (SR), 13.T.B.2.134 (muzzle), TR/675 (buttplate flat), unit canceled on slingband (illegible)
1891 VCS 4018 h - "S" / "I" SR-n/a, Kar.88, R.B.C.11.123 (HH)
1891 VCS 38 i - C/H C/G C/G "S", SR- Kar.88 A.M.XVI.1.45. (slingband)

1892 VCS 8404 - C/E C/G C/S, "." / "Z" / “S”, SR- Kar.88/n.m. (FP left receiver-rework)
1892 VCS 4323 e – C/E C/G C/S, “S”, SR- Kar.88 R.F.C.49.5 (slingband) C/S TG & buttplate
1892 VCS 6248 e – “S” B.A.M.I.5.22. (slingband) 1920 property marked (CB-2011)
1892 VCS 6745 e – C/E C/G C/S, “S”, SR- Kar.88, (receiver marked S.S.=JPS?) (barrel -“6W” VCS #45 C/Sx3) C/S TG & stock
1892 VCS 7675 e - "S" B.2.T.B.2.81 (left receiver) (CB)
1892 VCS 8102 e - B.2.T.B.2.69 (Noll)
1892 VCS 6511 f - R.I.M.24.31 (Noll)
1892 VCS 8324 f – C/E C/G C/S, “S”, SR- Kar.88, B.1.U.R.5.24 (muzzle), C/S TG
1892 VCS 8704 f – C/E C/G C/S, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88, B.2.Ch.2.5 (muzzle), C/S TG
1892 VCS 4724 h – B.4.Ch.2.55 (muzzle) B.2.T.E.F.3 (slingband)
1892 VCS 1114 i - R.P.C.8.43 (Noll)
1892 VCS 5120 i - C/E C/G C/S, “.” “S”, SR- Kar.88, 9.II.11 (muzzle)C/S TG

1893 VCS 9747 a - 7.U.4.85 (linedout) 170.R.23 (Noll)
 
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Prussian Landesgendarmerie - Rural Police

1890 CGH 2041 a - L.G.1220 (Noll)
1890 CGH 4890 a - L.G.2979 (Noll)

1890 VCS 8626 - L.G.1441 (slingband) (CB)
1890 VCS 8738 - SR-Kar.88, L.G.2070 (slingband) (has “K” style marking on top of receiver)
1890 VCS 9735 - "." "S", L.G. 1788 (slingband) (has “K” style marking on top of receiver) (CB report)
1890 VCS 2634 b - 6.A.F.9.216 (linedout), L.G.4998 (Noll)
 

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