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Borsigwalde K98k Serials and Data

Code 243 1939 7127 S

All matching except the stock, hand-guard, bayonet lug, and rear band....marked 497, everything else is marked 7127S, 7127, or 27. I was told it was probably a Field Armorer's repair at some point, 50%-60% blue, Heer-marked laminated stock and matched hand-guard.

No cleaning rod but has always had a P. Ernst und Shones bayonet, scabbard, and a nice frog....unfortunately not numbered to the rifle but also dated 1939.
 
1938 S/243
Sn. 8469 e
Bc. 38 Dö 91 (3) 280
Lr. Wiemar
Rr. (3) 280
"Mod 98"
Stock 280 Walnut, flat (matching ser #)

* Vet bb in resto process & will post progress elsewhere.
Contributing to core data.
 
243 1940 ser# 3250 d

Here is my contribution. 243 code 1940, all matching British captured in Afrika (AA broad arrow mark)
 

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More pictures

Here are more pictures, what information was wanted for the sticky?
 

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Pardon absence,

Just picked up S/243 over 1937. All parts match, including stock, 1595 e block, except the bolt housing/handle and extractor, 6121 w block. Bore in great condition.

This is the 2nd rifle I've picked up all matching parts except 4 parts on dot 44 and 2 parts on this one, and the non-matching parts match on both. Amazing seeing the transition eagles, Weimar Eagles with 211 and Reich eagles with 211... On metal and wood....

panzertruppe
 
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AR41 All Matching Captured?

I have an AR41. All matching. No Import marks. Missing sling, bayo, sight hood, cleaning rod. Received this from my father. He said that he thought it was from Egypt. He bought it back in the early 60's. I believe it was a British capture and from the Arsenal of Alexandria. Any speculations on this piece? Pic enclosed
 

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It's a typical Commonwealth capture, the second ar41 which I know. You could take a better photo of the right side of the stock with the color marking, there is certainly something written like "R.P SRI. xx".
These markings could mean R.P. = Regimental Police - SRI = Sri Lanka

Also important is a close up photo which shows the area of the original disc / additional disc with the "MP 174" marking. The disc on the left side of the stock would be also interesting. It's possible this Mauser Berlin rifle served in the Kriegsmarine.

More important informations could be hidden behind the butt plate on the stock. If you remove the butt plate, you could take a photo of the stock completion date code.

Regards,
Stephan
 
Here are some pics of the stock. It is very hard to make out the paint markings. I think that you are correct about the "RP" & 58.There are no markings on the left side. I started to remove the butt plate but it is being difficult. I did not want to mess up the screws. The stock has been repaired in 2 places. One repair was at the top of the stock were the butt plate screw in. I am not sure what you mean by "The original disk"? Any other marks to look for? Thanks for the help
 

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You are very welcome! It's good you stopped to remove the butt plate, I don't want you to damage the screws. With "original disc" I meant the original disc of the rifle, not the added disc with the "MP" marking. The area between these two discs is important, I have marked the area in the photo, there should be the branch of service (H, M or L) marking. Maybe it's still slightly visible when you take a good photo.

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It is very hard to see any mark. I tried to get a close up the best that I could. Maybe you can see something
 

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Thank you for all of the help. Sorry I have been out of town with no computer access. After all I have learned the next question is value? I have been around guns for a long time and only have seen one AR mauser in my lifetime. I know they made many does that make mine a hard to fine manufacture? Also since it was a commonwealth capture and all matching does that add value to? I realize that the rifle is not pristine
 
Will add mine. Matching 1940 243 code. 5993 t. Laminate Barrel code/maker beneath wood line. Has the letter "P" stamped on stock. L&F markied sling.
 
Details of my twice navy issue, Norwegian capture Borsigwalde.

Receiver : 243 1940

Serial : 9282 g (all matching except for bolt & butt plate)
(plus additional stamped Norwegian Navy serial K.N.M. Nr. 12764 on receiver side)

Butt marked with Kriegsmarine M property eagle, but left and right discs unmarked. Clear e/26 inspection stamps. Unnumbered clearing rod, and has an original L&F sling.
 
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S/243 1937, 3355a.

Bolt mm, rear trigger guard lock screw is e/63, no cleaning rod. Everything else matches. All other waffenamts are WaA211 or e/211.
 
Greetings,
I just picked up a AR 41 coded K98 that was claimed to be a vet bring back. The seller acquired this rifle from a family that said the grandfather brought it home from WW2 and it sat in a closet since. Whether that story is true or not, I think this rifle was a great find. The receiver, barrel, and every other component on the stock have the same serial number with numerous WAA 26 stamps. The bolt assembly has different serial numbers, with WAA 77 stamps. The rifle has no import markings and is dusty from long-term storage. There is a name carved into the left side of the stock near the receiver, but there's no way to verify the name - e.g., whether that was the name of the German soldier the rifle was assigned to or the name of the GI that brought it back. It would be great if anyone could provide more insight into the details of this rifle if possible.
 

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243 1939 7830e, matching rifle/mismatch bolt, duffle cut behind barrel band. Rifle previously owned by James Earl Jones. Bolt is early Oberndorf, 9343t, WaA 63.
 
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