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Sarge

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Has the G 43 forum died and gone away??? I have not looked at it for quite a while and I have not been able to find a link to it that worked.
Sarge
 
Yes, about the same time this forum got popular and the release of Kriegsmodell the old G/K43 forum died. Sad, as a lot of good information/pics were lost...
 
There was one cat who was rebuilding semi- MP44's and I believe he also test fired one of the SMG early "loaner" FG's at a reenact event (with blanks) - "MP43" I think was his avatar - is he any this forum? He was a like-minded individual - enjoyed talking MP44 building with him.

There was a relaxed attitude on that forum which was fun - but also indicative of the pre-fearful days of posting images of your collection - it was a fairly difficult forum for Joe-public to find, which had it's benefits -

A lot of them get fowled up by too many weirdos, too, MG42 was a good forum for a while, too - then, a lot of oddballs, PM's about illegal transfers and I'm history, adios, I spent way too much every years on licenses, permits and lawyers already.
 
There was one cat who was rebuilding semi- MP44's and I believe he also test fired one of the SMG early "loaner" FG's at a reenact event (with blanks) - "MP43" I think was his avatar - is he any this forum? He was a like-minded individual - enjoyed talking MP44 building with him.

There was a relaxed attitude on that forum which was fun - but also indicative of the pre-fearful days of posting images of your collection - it was a fairly difficult forum for Joe-public to find, which had it's benefits -

A lot of them get fowled up by too many weirdos, too, MG42 was a good forum for a while, too - then, a lot of oddballs, PM's about illegal transfers and I'm history, adios, I spent way too much every years on licenses, permits and lawyers already.

I think it was MP43sniper, a fellow called Craig. He welded up a demilled parts kit.
 
The Old G/K-43 Forum

I think it was MP43sniper, a fellow called Craig. He welded up a demilled parts kit.

I really did enjoy it very much-I like the parts of the "self pro claimed" G/K-43 experts,,But the best were what me and some of my fellow G/K-43 collectors,Were the guys we called THE DE'FONTER BUBBA'S" At that time nether of them own a complete and original ZF4 SCOPE and Mount Rig..They would knock every mount rig that would come up on a bid site or picture of one on that forum --Hay Bubba 1--Did you see the fonts on that rig?--Don't look right to me,,Ya Bubba 2-The slant of da 4 looks phony,,And da 359 looks way out of place on da top !!--Those two clowns were put in their place by a well known collector who just happen to be a forum member,,And that for real scope and mount rig was his..But it was stuff like that ,That made the site some what interesting,,Then came to debate on the 5 rd mags for the G/K-43 --Boy what a cluster of experts on that subject,,Including me..And most of the "EXPERTS" who claimed super knowledge of G/K-43s.. Took from Darrin Weavers fine Book,,:hail: Hitlers Grand,,Grabbing up on all his research and efforts as if it was their knowledge.But I truly must admit..Their were some pretty smart and nice people on that forum--Plus a very few douche bags. Who were not real collectors of history--Just collectors of How much they could make in $$$--That's it --Have a nice day and a great Life--Frenchy
 
Through the significant effort of some of the guys here, GK Forum became a great place. Then, the site owners attempted to exploit us and what we built for their own profit, and began treating us like low level employees, except unpaid employees (but who pay the employer through donations.) They decided to parlay the site traffic that we were responsible for into profit from online gaming, which part of the site was converted to service. Then, they wanted to require us mods to "write articles" and our pics and intellectual property would belong to them to exploit. Their conduct was abusive, ridiculous, and not consistent with people who know how to manage things properly. First, a number of mods quit, me being the first, then they publicly lied, telling members that I attempted to "sabotage" the site and locked me out while doing this so that I could not post the truth. What I did, because GK Forum had become an online gaming, exploited sh!tshow, was remove my pictures and informative posts, which belonged to me, inasmuch as they announced a policy that all intellectual property posted there belonged to them, not those of us (all of us) who posted it for the good of each other and the hobby, not their online gambling and profit. Fortunately, a number of guys here saw what they did and called them on it. Censorship, history revision, lock outs, etc., were all utilized to advance their lies. There was a second mod exodus, then the site imploded, having little to no traffic or posting of merit.

All of this is why this site exists, why our policy here is that the pics and info belong to those who post them, and why we don't censor. You know what you are getting here and if there are disagreements you will see both sides and can come to your own conclusions like a sentient adult. Those who don't want to come to their own conclusions and don't approve of this model are, frankly, people I don't care to have here anyway as they are simply moronic nuisances. :thumbsup:
 
Ahh yes, Now it all comes back to me. It had been so long that I had forgotten about all of that BS!
Oh well, guess all I had remembered was the "good times."
Sarge
 
Ahh yes, Now it all comes back to me. It had been so long that I had forgotten about all of that BS!
Oh well, guess all I had remembered was the "good times."
Sarge

They ended what made it good and wanted to replace that with something bad for all of us and the hobby but good for them personally. Given that the hobby is now largely internet forum driven, that's not good. When good sites go and are replaced by bad ones it's not a minor matter given how much the hobby's health and integrity are tied to the health and integrity of its internet sites and forums.
 
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The site owners destroyed the site simply because they were greedy, self serving shits. They were raking in dough, by constantly asking for donations, and they were getting a substantial sum out of us.

Then the insanity set in, with what they called ''casino style gaming" .

Then they began censoring the very members who were supporting the morons financially.

Then they started blackballing members.

Then they started supporting some neofascist shite posters and posting crap themselves.

Finally it hit critical mass and imploded.

Basically they killed a cash cow that they had successfully milked for years.

In fact, they worked double overtime to put themselves, and their site out of business.
 
Well I remember it simply as a good place to exchange information on G/K 43's, PTR44's and SMG FG42's. I never gave them a dime. I never got involved in any of the political drama nor was I even aware of it.
 
Well I remember it simply as a good place to exchange information on G/K 43's, PTR44's and SMG FG42's. I never gave them a dime. I never got involved in any of the political drama nor was I even aware of it.

My opinions all: Of course, we could have all done nothing, because "it is just a hobby" and allowed them to continue what they were doing, exploiting, censoring, etc. I well remember the few toadies whining, bitching, and moaning that all of this was being called out. They were the last ones there to turn out the lights ;) Had these people prevailed in their views the G/K43 forum and hobby would have been controlled by censoring toadies and you would have been free to "exchange information" that they approved of and did not censor. My experience with various internet forums is that you then get "big shots", humpers and their toadies controlling the information you see. Humped stuff is then "wow", "one looker!" and " :thumbsup: " Then, the hobby we spend so much time enjoying becomes a fraud filled joke controlled by strutting self-important abusive klowns.

Of course, there is much public happiness and blessings all around, and mutual taffy pulling and back patting by sycophants, trinket whores, and those profiting from them who are gleeful that they are making bank, can't get called out, and are in control of authentication and information. That was what G/K43 Forum had become, IMHO. Those who like that type of forum and site really don't fit in here because they value pig lipstick, taffy pulls, sycophancy, and appearances over facts, truth, and level playing fields. Those people should resurrect G/K43 Forum, which would not be as much of a threat to the knowledge base because we have this site.
 
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My opinions all: Of course, we could have all done nothing, because "it is just a hobby" and allowed them to continue what they were doing, exploiting, censoring, etc. I well remember the few toadies whining, bitching, and moaning that all of this was being called out. They were the last ones there to turn out the lights ;) Had these people prevailed in their views the G/K43 forum and hobby would have been controlled by censoring toadies and you would have been free to "exchange information" that they approved of and did not censor. My experience with various internet forums is that you then get "big shots", humpers and their toadies controlling the information you see. Humped stuff is then "wow", "one looker!" and " :thumbsup: " Then, the hobby we spend so much time enjoying becomes a fraud filled joke controlled by strutting self-important abusive klowns.

Of course, there is much public happiness and blessings all around, and mutual taffy pulling and back patting by sycophants, trinket whores, and those profiting from them who are gleeful that they are making bank, can't get called out, and are in control of authentication and information. That was what G/K43 Forum had become, IMHO. Those who like that type of forum and site really don't fit in here because they value pig lipstick, taffy pulls, sycophancy, and appearances over facts, truth, and level playing fields. Those people should resurrect G/K43 Forum, which would not be as much of a threat to the knowledge base because we have this site.


Hambone obviously your involvement with the G/K43 Forum was at a different level than my casual user experience. I think I speak for 90% of the former users of that forum who like myself simply enjoyed the free flow of information on German Firearms of the Second World War that site had to offer. I'm not here to defend the people who ran the G/K43 forum. Hell I don't know any of them unlike yourself and others who have a bone to pick with them. Yes I'm glad this site offers an alternative to that old not so forgotten forum. Anyhow time moves on and all things must pass.
 
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Hambone obviously your involvement with the G/K43 Forum was at a different level than my casual user experience. I think I speak for 90% of the former users of that forum who like myself simply enjoyed the free flow of information on German Firearms of the Second World War that site had to offer. I'm not here to defend the people who ran the G/K43 forum. Hell I don't know any of them unlike yourself and others who have a bone to pick with them. Yes I'm glad this site offers an alternative to that old not so forgotten forum. Anyhow time moves on and all things must pass.

Indeed. But remember too that those who do not learn from and remember the misconduct of the past are doomed to suffer from it in the future. Model, you weren't getting a "free flow of information" there. You were getting the information they decided you needed to see. There are many people in North Korea who believe they are living in paradise.

If the majority of the hobby, or even 25% of it, believed that G/K43 had integrity as a site and was of benefit to the hobby it would still be around, censoring, with "da Bookie", asking for donations, etc. Time does move on but you better take your experiences and lessons with you as you traipse through it or you'll be poorer, more ignorant, and likely missing fingers :thumbsup:
 
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Indeed. But remember too that those who do not learn from and remember the misconduct of the past are doomed to suffer from it in the future. Model, you weren't getting a "free flow of information" there. You were getting the information they decided you needed to see. There are many people in North Korea who believe they are living in paradise.

If the majority of the hobby, or even 25% of it, believed that G/K43 had integrity as a site and was of benefit to the hobby it would still be around, censoring, with "da Bookie", asking for donations, etc. Time does move on but you better take your experiences and lessons with you as you traipse through it or you'll be poorer, more ignorant, and likely missing fingers :thumbsup:

Well I don't live in N Korea, still have all my fingers and read from many books. I guess I (like many others) survived my time at the G/K43 forum. :thumbsup:
 
Well I don't live in N Korea, still have all my fingers and read from many books. I guess I (like many others) survived my time at the G/K43 forum. :thumbsup:

At least you now know that G/K was in fail mode and a slow motion implosion. Next time you see a site doing things as they did you'll know :thumbsup: North Korea is better managed so don't mean to offend it.
 
Yes, MP43sniper, that was his avatar. -

There was another member there, whom I bought some very hard-to-find items from, including an original G41(m) stock set - Mel Smith - "qualityBC" - I think was his avatar. Had some very impressive items - when he shared images. Anyone know if he is still kicking.
That damned stock was the most expensive thing I had ever bought at that time, $3500 - lol - my spending has got steadily and increasingly worse since then, ha.

For me discovering the g43 site was the turning point in my collecting, and introduced me to another way of looking at these items, in a friendly atmosphere, I didn't run into any of the flak, but as Hambone says, it may well have been censored info. but it was info. that was "new" to me. I bought Darrin Weaver's book because of the site and started my own study, and continue to do so.

I think the overall state of collectable firearms sites has become drier, because we now by-default have to be cautious of what we post, or advertise as being in our collections. It is what it is.

Thanks for your work in keeping this site honest, Hambone.
 
There was another member there, whom I bought some very hard-to-find items from, including an original G41(m) stock set - Mel Smith - "qualityBC" - I think was his avatar. Had some very impressive items - when he shared images. Anyone know if he is still kicking.
Mel Smith a.k.a. qualityBC a.k.a. Uncle Mel has recently been selling some of his possessions on the usual auction sites.
 

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