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    I thought I will write a bit about weapon lubrication and preservation in the Wehrmacht. The orders are historic and I don't want to encourage somebody to clean the K98k's in this way, it's just a information. Don't put oil or other cleaning products on the stock, keep in mind that anything you put on the stock will decrease the collector value!

    Purpose of the oil and grease introduced in the Army

    Designated Use
    Cleaners and rust preventatives for barrels and all blank parts of weapons.
    Normal Conditions: Waffenreinigungsöl TL 6007 - Gun cleaning oil TL 6007
    Tropical Conditions: Waffenreinigungsöl TL 6007 - Gun cleaning oil TL 6007
    Strong Cold: Waffenreinigungsöl, frostsicher TL 6024 - Gun cleaning oil, frost-proof TL 6024 (Usable up to -40° Celsius. At lower temperatures these oils have to get mixed with petroleum: 1 part petroleum 3 part oil

    Designated Use
    For lubricating the bolts and all moving parts on weapons and equipment.
    Normal Conditions: Waffenschmieröl TL 6021 - Gun lubricating oil TL 6021
    Tropical Conditions: Gun lubricating oil Aero M.G.-Oil from the company Hamburg-Amerikanische Mineralöl G.m.b.H., Hamburg 36, Jungfernstieg 51
    Strong Cold: Waffenreinigungsöl, frostsicher TL 6025 - Gun lubricating oil, frost-proof TL 6025 (Usable up to -40° Celsius. At lower temperatures these oils have to get mixed with petroleum: 1 part petroleum 3 part oil

    Designated Use
    Rust preventive for blank parts of weapons and equipment of stored inventory
    Normal Conditions: Schutzfett 40 TL 6017 - Protection grease 40 TL 6017
    Tropical Conditions: Schutzfett 40 (Tp) TL 6023 - Protection grease 40 (Tropics) TL 6023
    Strong Cold: xxx

    Designated Use
    To spread the Unfleiß (area between barrel and stock)
    Normal Conditions: Waffenfett TL 6006 - Gun grease TL 6006
    Tropical Conditions: Waffenfett TL 6006 - Gun grease TL 6006
    Strong Cold: xxx

    Designated Use
    For leather care
    Normal Conditions: Lederöl und Lederfette TL 6003 - Leather oil and leather grease TL 6003
    Tropical Conditions: Lederöl TL 6003(because leather grease also get liquid at higher temperatures, it could get replaced with leather oil)
    Strong Cold: xxx

    Supreme High Command of the German Army (Ch H Rüst u. BdE), January 26, 1942
    - 2197 /42 g – AHA /1 b (I).

    TL = Technical delivery condition




    Use of the gun care products, lubricants (oil and grease) in extreme cold

    Gun cleaning oil, gun lubricating oil and - if still available – M.G.-oil are usable at temperatures up to minus 30° Celsius.

    For higher degrees of coldness, these oils must be mixed with petroleum as required (in each case for adaptation to the outside temperature) for preservation in the liquid state. The admixture of petroleum may not exceed 25% of the total amount (at most 1 part petroleum to 3 parts oil). Then they remain liquid up to around minus 50° Celsius.

    For the time of greater cold, the troops in the East and in Norway receive frost-proof gun cleaning oil and frost-proof gun lubricating oil, usable at temperatures up to minus 40° Celsius. At lower temperatures these oils must also be mixed with petroleum in accordance with the principles set out in paragraph 2. Barrels with frost-proof oil are marked "frost-proof".

    O.K.H. (Ch H Rüst u. BdE), October 8, 1941
    - 85/86 – AHA /In 2 (VIII) In 4.

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    Stock preservation


    Due to inadequate delivery of the company with Leinölfirnis (linseed oil varnish) by the suppliers, tests are currently being carried out with other, equivalent materials for the stock preservation.

    Until the conclusion of these tests Reinigungsöl 34 (cleaning oil 34) can be used for stock preservation in the absence of Leinölfirnis (linseed oil varnish). The cleaning oil must be applied thinly and rubbed into the stock wood with a cloth. After rubbing, the stock must be wiped dry with a clean cloth.

    The substitutes for Leinölfirnis (linseed oil varnish) offered by private companies may not be used by the troops for stock preservation, since they are usually containing paint and are harmful to the stock wood.
    All existent requests are rejected.

    Supreme High Command of the German Army,
    January 23, 1936. AHA/In 2 (III).





    Stock preservation product


    As a substitute for the previously used stock preservation product, gun cleaning oil may be used until further notice for the treatment of rifle and carabine stocks.

    The oil should be applied to the stock wood with a clean cloth or cleaning string and wiped dry after a short time.

    O.K.H. (Ch H Rüst u. BdE), July 3, 1940
    85 – 4910/40 AHA/In 2 (VII).





    Barrel inside oiling


    After the shooting, the preliminary oiling of the barrels has to be done in the still lukewarm state.

    In the H. Dv. 256 ---- Cleaning kit 34 and Cleaning kit 34 for caliber 5,6 ---- Description and instruction manual ---- in the first sentence of section F, the word "immediately" has to be deleted and "in the lukewarm state" must be written.

    Cover sheet correction is not intended.

    O.K.H. (Ch H Rüst u. BdE), July 30, 1941
    ---- 72 d 60/83 ---- AHA/In 2 (III b).






    Weapon cleaning oil


    The gun cleaning oil will in the future be produced in red color in order to reliably distinguish it from other oil --- in particular gun lubrication oil. ----

    The relevant instructions are occasionally revised.

    O.K.H. (Ch H Rüst u. BdE), March 17, 1942
    ---- 85/86 ---- AHA/In 2 (VIII).

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    Rust removal


    The blued parts get only dabbed, not rubbed off. Rusty areas get oiled and wiped the following day. This procedure is repeated until the rust disappears and a black spot is visible in its place.

    K98k manual from 1935






    Consumption values 1934


    As consumtion values are determined:
    Schußwaffen 98 monthly 28 cleaning strings, 46 gram gun cleaning oil
    M.G.-barrels monthly 15 cleaning strings, 30 gram gun cleaning oil
    Pistole 08 monthly 6 cleaning strings, 10 gram gun cleaning oil

    Supreme High Command of the German Army, November 26, 1934
    AHA /Fz In IV A.




    Consumption values 1938


    As consumtion values are determined for A 1 a and A 15 units:
    Schußwaffen 98 monthly 20 cleaning strings, 30 gram gun cleaning oil
    M.G. monthly 15 cleaning strings, 20 gram gun cleaning oil
    Pistole 08 monthly 3 cleaning strings, 4 gram gun cleaning oil

    As consumtion values are determined for M.G. units:
    Schußwaffen 98 monthly 15 cleaning strings, 20 gram gun cleaning oil
    M.G. monthly 40 cleaning strings, 60 gram gun cleaning oil
    Pistole 08 & M.P. monthly 3 cleaning strings, 4 gram gun cleaning oil

    As consumtion values are determined for Pionier units:
    Schußwaffen 98 monthly 15 cleaning strings, 20 gram gun cleaning oil
    M.G. monthly 20 cleaning strings, 30 gram gun cleaning oil
    Pistole 08 & M.P. monthly 3 cleaning strings, 4 gram gun cleaning oil

    The battalion etc. has to order the cleaning strings and gun cleaning oil quarterly, from the responsible Heereszeugamt (HzA).

    O.K.H., July 15, 1938
    - 85 – In 2 (VIII).

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    Great historical references - do we have any idea if Ballistol is what is referenced for gun cleaning oil?
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    Former Wehrmacht soldiers told me, Ballistol was their gun cleaning oil. It seems like Ballistol had the specification of Waffenreinigungsöl TL 6007/Waffenreinigungsöl 34, but certainly there was more supplier.

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    From the Ballistol page, a letter from a soldier to the Ballistol company:

    Your Ballistol, supplied to my battalion, has been very effective in maintaining the rifles. In the prolonged rainy weather you could see in the trenches almost only rusted barrels and parts. A highly detrimental for the rifles cleaning with harmful agents was the result. After application of the ballistol, the rusting was completely eliminated.

    Scheffen
    Hauptmann und Bataillonsführer
    1943

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    Cool write up! Thanks Stephen. I have a tube of some wartime grease downstairs, now I have to go examine it. Haha
    Looking for 10" cleaning rod, early style e/214 #91, nazi style e/26 #04

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8x57IS View Post
    ..Your Ballistol, supplied to my battalion, has been very effective in maintaining the rifles..
    Great stuff! Amazing that someone in that position took the time to write a letter to the company, especially at that time! (1943) Thanks for sharing this interesting information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianAR View Post
    Cool write up! Thanks Stephen. I have a tube of some wartime grease downstairs, now I have to go examine it. Haha
    You are very welcome Andrew! I'm curious what kind of grease you have there.

    @ heavy_mech
    It surprised me too and usually the people who was writing a letter to the company was hunters who expect to get at least a single can of Ballistol, because it was nearly impossible to get something like that on the civilian market during the war.

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    Great information provided thank you for taking the time to do this. Such a interesting read.
    "Don't use your musket if you can kill 'em with your hatchet"

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