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M.42 Lw. single decal net helmet

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Thanks to Farb for finding this. I ran across an original issue net back in 1993. I've been waiting for the right original helmet to turn up with the original issue hooks attached to put on the net. This is a harder to find ET.64 M.42, lot 2015, right before the code switch to ckl. Many thanks to Brian / M45 for his excellent work on lot numbers, which I consult often. If you don't have his work, you need it. Cheap, excellent info.
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?7816-German-helmet-lot-numbers-1935-1945-ongoing-research

My other net helmet, Normandy documented Heer M.40:
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?617-M.40-Helmet-w-net-Normandy-ID-d
 

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Pretty sure I’d seen this one. Pretty neat, double that , as you had the right net!
 
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Indeed nice set up viewing period pictures of Luft ground troops especially Normandy and Italy show these in wear quite often some even look quite crude as if solider homemade done. timothy
 
Very nice helmet Ham. If this was on some dealer's websites, the helmet would be $1000. Once the net was added it would become a $2500 helmet.
 
Very nice helmet Ham. If this was on some dealer's websites, the helmet would be $1000. Once the net was added it would become a $2500 helmet.

I think it was on WAF of all places as I saw it as well... I have far too many to have chased it. I have a No decal M42 with the Net hooks also and was always tempted to add a net. Nets now guys are asking as much as a lid.

These late nets seem to have been stored "somewhere" another Bavarian barn maybe ? Who knows but they turn up now and again. They need a bit of help Im sure to lay correctly and look "right" most I have seen added don't. There is a guy who's handy at doing this maybe wetting it first then letting it dry in place ?

As far as value ??? Base helmet + net and hooks seems to be the going rate right now for an "added" net. Ken N. has sold a few over the last couple years and I was temped to buy one. Around 1500.00 he was selling them for. This one was listed for 800.00 ? I think ? there abouts it was temping.

M40/m42 luft's sell in the 500-700 range the wires add about 150.00-200.00 and the nets are 700.00 so there is your price.

Hope this answers your ??? matt.
 
I think it was on WAF of all places as I saw it as well... I have far too many to have chased it. I have a No decal M42 with the Net hooks also and was always tempted to add a net. Nets now guys are asking as much as a lid.

These late nets seem to have been stored "somewhere" another Bavarian barn maybe ? Who knows but they turn up now and again. They need a bit of help Im sure to lay correctly and look "right" most I have seen added don't. There is a guy who's handy at doing this maybe wetting it first then letting it dry in place ?

As far as value ??? Base helmet + net and hooks seems to be the going rate right now for an "added" net. Ken N. has sold a few over the last couple years and I was temped to buy one. Around 1500.00 he was selling them for. This one was listed for 800.00 ? I think ? there abouts it was temping.

M40/m42 luft's sell in the 500-700 range the wires add about 150.00-200.00 and the nets are 700.00 so there is your price.

Hope this answers your ??? matt.

I don't know about "late net" as it isn't dated. Perhaps you get those you sell from a Bavarian barn but when I got it 25 years ago there was only one, in fact the only one I saw at the SOS as I was looking. It was in a ziplock bag in a case with a bunch of all kinds of stuff. It looked like it came off a helmet or had been shoved up in a liner. There are rust stains where wire was on it. I don't know if the seller was Philly Cat but everything else he had looked good and he was a one or two table US seller. At that time I was unaware of repros of any quality, though these are little more than knotted hemp. For $100 a pop (with say a 100 pc. min) Im sure you could find some enterprising Indians to knot some up for you. With respect to "help" I presume you mean holding a certain form or laying flat. It doesn't need that. It's old hemp. A nice M.40 or M.42 Luft will sell for more than you suggest. The "original" hook sets can be found for $100-150 and it would be very difficult to determine originality as to helmet and wire. In fact it would be difficult to differentiate original wire from the proper type bent and prepped like the original as wire hooks and rings humped and bent.

I personally do not heed much of the rah rah at a certain long of tooth forum on such matters as it is primarily the "wisdom" of those who think they know but don't / don't know what they don't know but speaking as if they do, or mutual back patting rah rah.
 
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I was merely commenting on how when I see helmets for sale, a nice Heer or Luft helmet will be somewhere around $1000. But then next to it, the exact same helmet will be for sale but with a net and the price will be significantly more. I don't know much about helmet collecting but I can't see why a net should add so much value. Sure it adds some but do net's by themselves sell for $1500?
 
I was merely commenting on how when I see helmets for sale, a nice Heer or Luft helmet will be somewhere around $1000. But then next to it, the exact same helmet will be for sale but with a net and the price will be significantly more. I don't know much about helmet collecting but I can't see why a net should add so much value. Sure it adds some but do net's by themselves sell for $1500?

No, they sure don't MD. I see the nets around $700-800. Also, they are knotted hemp twine essentially, with two hooks and a ring which is spot weld / joined. The hooks for the helmet, front and rear, are coated bent wire. It would be virtually impossible to distinguish one of these original net / helmet setups from later done for more money, if done properly. This one was referred to me as it was on my known want list and the source gave me a strong degree of confidence that the helmet hooks were original to it. Also, there is the appearance in hand. That's subjective though, and there wasn't much premium paid for the helmet, if any.

So if a set of front and rear helmet hooks are $150 (free if you make them yourself), the net around $800, and the helmet $1000, you're at $1950, tops. I've seen the nets much less, and excellent repro nets are around $100.
Cheers,
HB
 

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Larger hooks needed

Hello: I’m new to this site, and am very pleased with the kindness, and helpfulness displayed....especially compared to “Another” Forum on the Internet! Anyway, I love the M42 displayed, and would like to find two of the larger wire hooks that are used in securing the netting to the helmet. My intention is to place in a frame, a new net and it’s hooks, to show what was required to turn a helmet into such a lovely example as pictured!

Respectfully,
Jack
 

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