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HZa Jt reworked Luger

mrfarb

mrfarb

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In my quest to understand the German depot system in regards to reworks, I decided a while back I wanted to add a reworked Luger to the collection, and finally found one. This is a 1917 dated DWM Artillery Luger reworked into the 4 inch barrel Parabellum model. Barrel was replaced with an e/655 depot replacement, rear toggle was replaced with an "RW" proofed armorers component and numbered to match. Receiver assy was refinished for pitting, but generally the rest of the pistol is original finish (rust blued). Barrel number is 1 digit off, but clearly a Waffenmeister error. The grips are e/135 marked replacements. Only "mismatched" part is the extractor, but appears to be original to the rework.

Pics are from the seller, I don't have time or even need to take others, these are nice!
 

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Very nice! Now you need to track down one of the Mg10 reworks. Ingolstadt and Magdeburg also assembled some new Lugers from spare parts, so you'll need those too...
 
I do agree with Ryan. You need them all.

It’s a nice pistol. Glad you snagged it.
 
Reworks

I think these are cool guns for a bunch of reasons. Veteran of several wars...secondary production....many different possible part combinations..:thumbsup:
 
Nice! I have the one I mentioned earlier, an S/42 1938 that has the straight-line stamp, HZaJt3. I get that the 3 indicated the employee, but was there a time frame of use difference between the straight-line and curved line stamps llike yours?
 
matthanne said:
Nice! I have the one I mentioned earlier, an S/42 1938 that has the straight-line stamp, HZaJt3. I get that the 3 indicated the employee, but was there a time frame of use difference between the straight-line and curved line stamps llike yours?
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I'm not sure if yours is a later type, but it seems to make sense. Then again, this pistol really feels like a latewar rework. It's possible that both were used at the same time by different armorers in the same shop. What type of work does your Luger have done to it? I'll be honest I've only seen a handful of reworked Lugers with HZa stamps so I haven't really followed the type of work done to them, such as the ones Ryan mentioned.
 
Very cool indeed. It makes me want one and I need to try to stay focused....
 
This is a HZaJt rework done to a matching non-import 1938 S/42 pistol, which was refinished but not buffed to death so that you can still see the stamps. Not sure what was done at the HZa but it does have unnumbered grips (not in greatest shape). Came with postwar 'Mexico'-marked mag. It was the presence of the HZa stamp that made me choose this one, even though I paid more than it probably is worth otherwise (about $1K). Shoots well using WWB 115gr, using MecGar mags.

My questions are-
1. Is there any way to tell what was done at the HZa?
2. If there is info, when/why the HZa stamp was changed, the OP's P08 has the winged eagle and curved HZa line and mine has the stick wing and straight line HZa marking.

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Thought I would update, found a cool Artillery Luger holster reworked to P.08 style. Is 1915 dated, shortened and loops/closing strap changed. Rework stuff is really fun to collect, the Germans didn’t waste anything.

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I have a 1940 Luger that I believe was put together late in the war with spare/replacement parts. Serial number 7225 all matching, HZajt20, 1940 byf, Erfurt frame. Even the inside of the sideplate was numbered correctly with 72+1.

Tom
 

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Great pistol and holster. I must say though.... I only follow your threads for toe jam and the gross finger pics. Disappointed in you.
 
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