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Gew98 Erfurt 1916 a block

Warrior1354

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Been on a roll lately and this is my second Gew98 purchase in less then two months. Couldn't pass it up. Been looking for an Erfurt made Gew98 for quite some time and now I finally have one. This rifle is all matching besides the hand-guard and cleaning rod. Only bad I would have too say is one of the barrel band spring clips is broken. Not a big deal too me I'm very happy with this rifle too say the least. Whats interesting is comparing this Gew98 made by this maker too some of my other Gew98 rifles I own. Alot more sloppy and more tool markings then compared too my other Gew98 rifles I own. But in reality its incredible how much Erfurt was producing during the first World War. Such as Gew98 rifles, almost all of the Kar98a carbine production, S98/05 bayonets, lots of P08 Lugers, and MG08 machine guns. Really is quite a feat. Also wanted too add this rifle did pass through a depot as well marked 1 for Danzig. Might explain where the mismatched hand guard came from. But who really knows.

Oh and it goes well my Erfurt collection! It was feeling quite lonely without a Erfurt Gew98 rifle. And I'm not buying a Erfurt MG08 Maxim next lol!

Data sheet and info for your records Paul. Also wanted too add missed the floorplate and triggerguard photos will add those later.

Maker: Erfurt 1916 Gew98

Receiver SN: 3147a
Barrel SN: 3147a barrel code B.S.L 438
Front sight SN: 47
Rear sight SN: 47
Sight Slider SN: 47
Ejector box SN: 47
Trigger Sear SN: 47
Front barrel band SN: 47
Rear barrel band SN: 47
Trigger guard SN: 3147
Trigger guard screws SN: 47
Floor Plate SN: 47
Follower SN: 47
Stock SN: 3147
Hand guard SN: 2708
Buttplate SN: 3147 depot marked 1 for Danzig
Bayonet lug SN: 47
Cleaning Rod SN: 26
Bolt body SN: 3147a
Extractor SN: 47
Safety SN: 47
Cocking piece SN: 47
Bolt sleeve SN: 47
Firing pin SN: 47
 

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I really like the Erfurt collection, - though it would be neater if they were all the same year! (though Erfurt only made bayonets until 1915, both the 98/05 and the type II)

Pretty nice rifle for sure, not too easy to find, - as you say Erfurt was the crudest, but most prolific small arms maker, of the war. I have a clipping somewhere in an AEF summary that translated a German communique that mentioned the crudeness of the wartime carbines and this was a problem that worked its way to the front line commands... but to be fair, Erfurt was a miracle worker in so many ways they deserve considerable credit for their work. For one they were in a heavily industrialized region, not far from Saxony which was very industrialized (everyone knows of the Ruhr and Berlin, but Saxony was also incredibly important industrial wise...) which as the war progressed (or should I saw deteriorated) the labor unrest and bolshevism crippled true productivity, - it even spread its deadly tentacles into Bavaria by wars end (all due to labor that flooded the state due to the war).

Anyway, your rifle shows the crudeness even early in 1916, - and I have come to believe that Erfurt did make G98's as part of a general program, not some expedient as a forerunner of the sterngewehr program. The long held belief that this was so was largely based upon the crudeness and irregularity seen in their early G98 production, but this was a normal characteristic of all production at Erfurt, even the earliest work.

Such production output comes at a cost, - plus they supervised and supplied the Consortium too... so I think you still need a sterngewehr made by Erfurt to complete your mfg collection! (and a 08/15)!

Very nice job at showing your Erfurt collection!
 
I really like the Erfurt collection, - though it would be neater if they were all the same year! (though Erfurt only made bayonets until 1915, both the 98/05 and the type II)

Pretty nice rifle for sure, not too easy to find, - as you say Erfurt was the crudest, but most prolific small arms maker, of the war. I have a clipping somewhere in an AEF summary that translated a German communique that mentioned the crudeness of the wartime carbines and this was a problem that worked its way to the front line commands... but to be fair, Erfurt was a miracle worker in so many ways they deserve considerable credit for their work. For one they were in a heavily industrialized region, not far from Saxony which was very industrialized (everyone knows of the Ruhr and Berlin, but Saxony was also incredibly important industrial wise...) which as the war progressed (or should I saw deteriorated) the labor unrest and bolshevism crippled true productivity, - it even spread its deadly tentacles into Bavaria by wars end (all due to labor that flooded the state due to the war).

Anyway, your rifle shows the crudeness even early in 1916, - and I have come to believe that Erfurt did make G98's as part of a general program, not some expedient as a forerunner of the sterngewehr program. The long held belief that this was so was largely based upon the crudeness and irregularity seen in their early G98 production, but this was a normal characteristic of all production at Erfurt, even the earliest work.

Such production output comes at a cost, - plus they supervised and supplied the Consortium too... so I think you still need a sterngewehr made by Erfurt to complete your mfg collection! (and a 08/15)!

Very nice job at showing your Erfurt collection!

Thank you for the kind words Paul but remember I couldn't have done it without your help I've learned so much from you over the years. Mike and Cyprus both were a big help in this purchase as well learned a lot from their rifles. And to think when I first came here I was just a imperial whippersnapper!

Darn I forgot about the Stern Erfurt! I may add a Erfurt kar88 carbine to the collection one day because I think they're neat and I like how they were pressed into service during the war. No I'm not buying a Maxim lol!
 
That's a good, honest gewehr. Congrats, I know you've been looking for awhile for an Erfurt...

Only a couple years Mike! Have too say it was a damn shame seeing that prewar unit marked Erfurt Gew98 with the sanded refinished stock at the SOS show this year. I really wanted that rifle but I'm glad my patience paid off.
 
1916 Gewehr 98 - Erfurt Sturmgewehr Rifle

I have just acquired a 1916 Gew 98 Erfurt Sturmgewehr. It is All numbers matching and in excellent original condition. I was wondering if anyone could tell me something more about this rifle. I have checked all screws and the numbers matching everywhere on the receiver. I believe I got myself a good example here and hope someone can comment. I tried to upload 10 files, but only 3 went through so I will try to retake and add some more. Thx.
 

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Looks like a promising rifle, - this rifle has suffix? A "3" or later?? Two piece stocks are desirable to most and Erfurt is known for them, but still rare...

As for photographs, being new you are restricted until you reach 3 posts, or something like that. But you can do multiple posts with such pictures as you desire sharing. This will expedite your posts to remove the restrictions also, then you will get access to certain features, including the trader.

** you might consider starting a new post with your rifle, such discussions are best in dedicated threads.

I have just acquired a 1916 Gew 98 Erfurt Sturmgewehr. It is All numbers matching and in excellent original condition. I was wondering if anyone could tell me something more about this rifle. I have checked all screws and the numbers matching everywhere on the receiver. I believe I got myself a good example here and hope someone can comment. I tried to upload 10 files, but only 3 went through so I will try to retake and add some more. Thx.
 
Looks like a promising rifle, - this rifle has suffix? A "3" or later?? Two piece stocks are desirable to most and Erfurt is known for them, but still rare...

As for photographs, being new you are restricted until you reach 3 posts, or something like that. But you can do multiple posts with such pictures as you desire sharing. This will expedite your posts to remove the restrictions also, then you will get access to certain features, including the trader.

** you might consider starting a new post with your rifle, such discussions are best in dedicated threads.

I am still learning how to navigate the forum, so your advice is greatly appreciated!

Yeah.. it has a 3 beneath the serial number. I am impressed with its overall condition and will attempt some more pics ASAP. I added a couple more but three others are Too big. I like this forum... very helpful information on here.
 

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Wow that is really a wonderful Erfurt Sterngewehr I agree with Paul it needs it's own thread. Very tough to find this nice most Sterngewehrs were used and had a tough service life. Plus you have a dust cover as well that is even a bigger plus right there.
 
1916 Erfurt Sturmgewehr

Wow that is really a wonderful Erfurt Sterngewehr I agree with Paul it needs it's own thread. Very tough to find this nice most Sterngewehrs were used and had a tough service life. Plus you have a dust cover as well that is even a bigger plus right there.

This is a very high resolution photo attached here. You can zoom in Very Closely to see the detailed condition.
 

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