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Zeiss Zielvier post war/ early pre-war

Alter Hase

Alter Hase

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I have this Zeiss Zielvier in a made up low turret rig meant for shooting. Robert Spielauer in Austria mounted it years ago for me. I noticed today the serial is only in the 5,000 range, and the Zeiss Banner is below the model and production number. Does anyone know if this is a post war scope, or perhaps an early pre-war? I cannot find a good resource on this. Whatever it is, it works just fine. Thanks!
 

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I too have a relatively low number Scope. From the little info I could find it is pre-War late 1920s early 1930s. It came attached to a 1909 Argentine. I am told the mounts and bases are correct but I know the scope is not. Though it is the same scope mechanically as the correct Nedinsco scope just marked differently. That difference in marking is the difference in about $1,000 in value.

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capt14k said:
I too have a relatively low number Scope. From the little info I could find it is pre-War late 1920s early 1930s. It came attached to a 1909 Argentine. I am told the mounts and bases are correct but I know the scope is not. Though it is the same scope mechanically as the correct Nedinsco scope just marked differently. That difference in marking is the difference in about $1,000 in value.

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Hi, yes from what I am seeing these are 1920's scopes, and they swapped the banner later. Mine is in wonderful shape given its age. Some guy actually tried to tell me it was a repro. I was less than amused since I had it long before repros existed.
 
Alter Hase said:
Hi, yes from what I am seeing these are 1920's scopes, and they swapped the banner later. Mine is in wonderful shape given its age. Some guy actually tried to tell me it was a repro. I was less than amused since I had it long before repros existed.
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They definitely are not reproductions. And I believe the date range is correct. I found the most info on a drillings forum.

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capt14k said:
I too have a relatively low number Scope. From the little info I could find it is pre-War late 1920s early 1930s. It came attached to a 1909 Argentine. I am told the mounts and bases are correct but I know the scope is not. Though it is the same scope mechanically as the correct Nedinsco scope just marked differently. That difference in marking is the difference in about $1,000 in value.

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Hope you’re still around.
I too have one of these scopes that was attached to a 1941 model 52 Winchester.
Any clue what scope is worth today?
 
I believe $500. They were only about $300. But then again the Nedinsco scopes were about $900 and I have seen asking price as high as $3k. Which is why I still don't have a Nedinsco marked one for my 1909 Argentine Sniper
 
Thanks for your quick response.
This forum is the first place I could find that someone had a similar scope.

I too noticed that my stamp is below the serial number, not above it like other later numbers.

After further research, I believe our 5k serial numbers were probably fabricated in 1922 to 1924.

Interestingly Hitler arrived with armed stormtroopers jumped on a table in Munich pub in Nov. 8, 1923 fired two shots in the air and told the audience:
“the national revolution has begun.”
The next day he and 3000 armed nazi supporters clashed with the police.

Could it be possible our scopes may have belonged to some of the 3k supporters?

Maybe that’s why info is so hard to find about these scopes.
 
Steve$ said:
Thanks for your quick response.
This forum is the first place I could find that someone had a similar scope.

I too noticed that my stamp is below the serial number, not above it like other later numbers.

After further research, I believe our 5k serial numbers were probably fabricated in 1922 to 1924.

Interestingly Hitler arrived with armed stormtroopers jumped on a table in Munich pub in Nov. 8, 1923 fired two shots in the air and told the audience:
“the national revolution has begun.”
The next day he and 3000 armed nazi supporters clashed with the police.

Could it be possible our scopes may have belonged to some of the 3k supporters?

Maybe that’s why info is so hard to find about these scopes.
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I guess anything is possible, but I'm pretty sure the scope I have was on a commercial hunting rifle. Likely a drilling since the rifle maker name is on the side of the scope, and they were known for making drillings.
 
Mine too came off a hunting rifle that has been in family three generations. Sad that my brother lost the front base for the rifle last time he took it to a gun shop.

But I did have family members who fought in two different wars. Maybe the scope was acquired then? They were also used to train new soldiers and for target practice. Hopefully I can find a new base for my model 52 that accepts the claw mount on ring of scope and reunite the two.
 
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