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G29o 660 1939 Luftwaffe matching but...

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Cut in half! It’s one of those terrible d/c’s and an even worse repair, but what are you gonna do. Popped up on broker a few days ago. Everything matches except the missing bayonet lug! I’m going to call the shop Monday to see if I can get any background info on this rifle, in the meantime does anyone have a bayonet lug by chance?? First of these I’ve had, and I didn’t know they had a different follower than a regular 98. Pretty interesting rifle and I’m really liking it even with the issues.
 

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Also, is that an original sling loop end that came with it? It was on a 1903 sling when it came in.
 

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What a hunk of junk...I will take it off your hands, and even give you an extra $5 for your trouble...

Bastard.

:happy0180:

:hail:
 
Haha :moon:

Thanks Brian! Always thought these were cool :thumbsup:
 

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For $379 I can't blame you! If anyone can save this rare rifle its you Clay.

I wish you luck in your project. I'll be on the lookout for parts for you at the next OGCA show if you need any.
 
You stole the thing. Too bad about the horrific duffle cut/fix. Yes it is an original sling loop and nearly impossible to find if missing.
 
You stole the thing. Too bad about the horrific duffle cut/fix.

Yes steal it you did! Peter calling that a 'fix' is a pretty liberal interpretation of the word. :laugh: It will be interesting to see if it can be made better looking and how much. Good luck with it!
 
The real question is why some yo-yo would think that's a good place for a duffle cut!
 
It's pretty cool despite the bad cut. You need to perfect that "artistic" method of stock repair we were discussing so you can fix this one then mine.
 
Austrian Airforce... no wonder you stole it, that has to be the most idiotic title for an G.12/34 I have ever seen.... not only is this a very nice rifle, problems or not, it is also one of the highest recorded, probably one of the last made. I know its the highest i have recorded, but some reports may be higher.

Do the right receiver, its probably E/WaA623 x3, but its possible E/211 is present. It occurs slightly earlier than this, but not a whole lot of rifles this late known.
 
Never mind, I found the auction and the seller posted the RR, E/WaA623 x3

It's going to be a tricky deal finding a bayonet lug... not sure how you lose one of those.

BTW, - what a salesman, sounds like he was selling an rc, "Almost no collector value, this guys just a shooter", wonder what he would describe an rc as, "total crap boy's, I was going to shitcan it, but I thought maybe there's an idiot who will give me $20 for it..."

Screaming deal in this case. I bet the bolt is worth what you paid for it.
 
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The funnier part is Paul they laughed all the way too the bank that someone would buy this piece of junk for under $400. They probably thought can't believe it sold what a moron! HAHAHAHA!

If only they would have known better. I wonder how long they will laugh about it until someone burst's their little bubble. Kind of what happened too me last weekend with the G29/40. Can't believe you gave that amount for that rifle hahahaha. Yeap sure did such a boring Kreigsmarine rifle. No more laughing from that guy. Now its from me hahahaha!

The looks on people's faces like that is almost priceless.
 
Austrian Airforce... no wonder you stole it, that has to be the most idiotic title for an G.12/34 I have ever seen....

I saw that too. He really missed the boat on that one. Now to see what he can do with that stock 'repair'
 
Any G.12/34 is worth picking up if it isn't refinished, they are that rare... though they are not all that rare in the sense that you can't find them, for their low production they have survived in significant numbers. The thing is SDP didn't make many of them, as you can see this is a b-block and it is the highest rifle I have seen, and SDP did not roll over from 1938 to 1939, so only about 30k were made. They were also the nicest quality rifle SDP made, these came out before the real craziness (nazi stupidity) surfaced in production.

Although collectors really like SDP production, they were the first of the significant firms to go to shite, - right after this variation. The Luftwaffe was SDP's earliest sponsor, the fat man Göring gave them their first contracts and made sure Creditanstalt loaned them plenty of dough, this variation reflected this early attempt to keep SDP solvent. Before all the real expansion into complex weapon systems began (airframes/aircraft components, tanks etc..); after this variation was made small arms production was a nuisance and this is probably why SDP rifles went to hell before everyone else, - SDP diverted all their resources to these new programs, which their masters wanted (they didn't buy out SDP for automobile/bicycle production). I think they moved small arms components manufacture around to accommodate this restructuring, probably diverted the best men also, - they already had a critical labor problem, these new programs would only have exacerbated them.

Anyway, the gnarly DC is a distraction, but the right guy could make it much less distracting. Hell the parts alone are worth three times what was paid... as long as it isn't refinished, a rifle has potential, especially if matching. Refinished has always been junk, or at best shooter grade, and this sold for less than a piece of crap rc.
 
Yeah I don’t know why I blacked out the seller, like it couldn’t be easily searched anyway lol I guess I was hoping they would list more rifles like this haha! Yeah when I called to pay for it they said “oh cool!” Like they thought someone accidentally hit the BIN ha! I actually have a migraine to thank for this one, couldn’t sleep in the middle of the night, and by 3am I had this Austrian Air Force rig secured haha. I wanted to get the floorplate off but it is literally glued on by grime or wax or both. Once I can I’ll take some pictures of the unique follower for anyone that hasn’t seen them. Is this the first use of stamped parts on a Mauser?? Here is a detail shot on the bolt root with an unknown to me marking, but then again it might be something common to early Steyr.
 

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I do not know much about the followers, though they are stamped, full serial applied, - SDP did own a state of the art stamping company, they made many complex stampings for the company, including machine gun receivers. The company was part German owned until SDP bought it out, right around this period, but they were key to their automobile production. I am sure the buttplates and followers were made by them (Kromag or something similar), apparently it was one of the company's most prized assets.
 
Paul, I have to agree, this is an incredibly quality rifle! The action is very smooth as is the trigger interfacing, I think it breaks better than any military 98 I’ve felt. Overall it is an extremely nice handling rifle in hand, well balanced, a bit lighter than a 98k, and somehow all this makes it feel shorter even though it is nearly the exact same length, looks to be roughly 3/8 shorter than a typical cupped BP 98k. The finger grooves and pistol grip shape especially add to the ergonomics. The typical ww2 era SDP rifle really is a shame to their former position of quality. Even Oberndorf struggled to match them in the commercial market when their 1903 MS came out!

The stock is a shame but it can certainly be saved. The dark streaks apparent all the way around the stock are baked on OLD clear tape. Some of it easily peels off, other parts have it basically baked into the grain. I am trying to get this tape off at the moment to see what I’ve really got at this d/c point, it’s actually looking way better already just getting a little bit of this off.
 

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