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    Default 44 byf, is it real? Thoughts, info, worth?

    [B]Good afternoon all, new to this forum but a collector of other WWll military. I have wanted a K98 for quite some time but I am no where near as informed on these as my other afflictions. I know just enough to know there is someone around every corner claiming whatever they can get someone to believe, in other words, crooks. I didn't so much find this rifle but rather it found me. I do know this rifle has been locked away for at least the last 20 years or more. Beyond that, I have no idea. I will post around 25-30 photos in as many posts as needed. For the price I paid, I felt no need to do any research on this particular example at all. I grabbed it immediately, it was well worth it even if it were nothing more than wall decoration. There it is, hold nothing back because nothing is going to hurt my feelings on this whatsoever, but I think it may have been a very good find. Please ask if you may need or want any more pics of anything in particular. Until I know more about this, I have touched nothing, cleaned nothing. I also have not removed the barreled action from the stock but did remove the upper handguard just to see if there were any identifiers. I also disassembled the bolt to check the firing pin, no stamping there. I don't know if the pin should be stamped at this late date but I think earlier ones were. Everything moves freely and smoothly and fully functions, although I have cycled no rounds, live or otherwise. Photos will be in alphabetical order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmm View Post
    Seven more pics.
    All numbers look good, however someone tried to "spruce it up". There is some type of finish on the wood that does not belong there; the butt plate has been steel wooled as well. The sight hood is post war Israeli, but an original would be easy to locate. The firing pin should be numbered to the rifle. As far as separating the action from the stock, just remove those action screws and it will pop out. I had an "e" block once upon a time.

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    The rifle is fine, all numbered. The stock was additionally painted with some varnish, but nothing tragic. Fly cap is not original. Otherwise beautiful condition.

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    Thank you. I felt the same way about the stock, looks like a thin coat of poly or something (maybe tru?). I didn't pay much attention to the buttplate. But to me, that site hood just didn't seem to fit with the rest. I do not know these German rifles like what I normally go after but have always liked them. What I was really wondering about was all the stampings and proofs, I am not familiar with German manufacture at all but I do know there are many, as you call them, turds. The only things I know so far is this was supposed to have been built around July of 44 and the byf factory designation.

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    Any recommendations on the best place to find a correct site hood? As in what on line dealer is trustworthy for these? Most of my suppliers that I trust do not stock many German parts. Thanks for the insights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmm View Post
    Any recommendations on the best place to find a correct site hood? As in what on line dealer is trustworthy for these? Most of my suppliers that I trust do not stock many German parts. Thanks for the insights.
    Like others have said, aside from the hood, overcleaned butt plate, unmarked firing pin and added varnish it seems righteous. Not sure if rear sight parts have sn's, too dark to see. I have some original hoods. I get $35 shipped for one. Heres a quick photo or three.


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    Get ready for a fight when you replace the sight hood, warning..special tool required.
    Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

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    Now you tell me!

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    Thanks everyone, seems like I have a little keeper. Like I said, I wasn't worried about it either way but its always nice to have not bought just decoration. Anyone have any thoughts on a going rate for something such as this one? Its not going anywhere but I have not come across too many of these out in the wild for years now to hazard a guess. And the ones I have seen were so far up there that I didn't pay much notice. I know as far as the K98's go, this is one of the most common. Just curious I guess.
    Mowzerluvr, I sent you a pm about your post.
    Thanks again...

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