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    So hereís the rifle from my previous thread. I am still trying to decide if the stock crack is a big enough value hit to return it or if I am safe enough as is considering the relative scarcity. Iím north of 2k into this one and the seller is willing to refund some but not a lot.. It appears to be all matching, even the Iíll fitting HG. I have a feeling the HG was made with a blank of beech that wasnít 100% dried yet and possibly the cause of the warpage. The dustcover is really cool and due to the design with a single guide rod functions far more smoothly than say a Type99, itís also proofed and maker marked. The follower appears to have a numbering error with a flipped punch itís 61 instead of 91.
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    No way I could keep it myself, even if itís rare. But, WW1 collectors donít have as much to choose from and often overlook such issues. Probably never have another chance at a 17 Simson again. What would you have bid had you seen the crack? No way that is shipping damage, the seller had to have known about it.


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    To me,
    it does not look like the action cover was there since WWI ......
    With the crack in the stock .....
    North of 2k .....

    I'd send it back.
    Only my opinion.
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    You know my thoughts Clay...if its strictly a transient piece, and they won't satisfy you with some money back, I guess maybe send it back...

    However if you are thinking of really having a nice Imperial collection, this would be a cornerstone. Condition, maker, and dust cover, crack not with standing would make this a keeper for me, if I was doing an Imperial collection.

    As far as the crack, you, of all people, could work your magic on that if you wanted to. Or you can look over the plethora of 1917 matching Simson's with a dustcovers out there...hell, I think there were 4 or 5 at the last DACA show...

    Even with the crack I still think you did fine price wise considering what it is, and if you decided to part with it down the road, I am sure you would get all of your money back, and most likely a bit more.

    And I am sure there are enough hard core Imperial collectors out there that you could get some good trade out of it.

    I will be curious to see Paul's opinion...Mr. Simson himself!

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    The action cover and the rifle have not been married for long. (from what I can see on the photos)

    How much for a very nice Simson 1917 with NO crack in the stock?
    How much for a pitted action cover?

    Together, is that north of 2k?
    Well, I don't know about the US, but not over here.
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    Fully agreed on the action cover, I completely believe it to be a collector add on. Fortunately it wasnít an auction setting, I bought it a few minutes after it was listed for sale.

    I know what youíre saying Mike, surely a hard one to find. Decisions decisions..

    [QUOTE=Amberg;243892]To me,
    it does not look like the action cover was there since WWI ......
    With the crack in the stock .....
    North of 2k .....

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