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    Default S 84/98 1943

    What do You think about this bayonet? Specially about scabbard? Was it like this in 1943? I have found such description for this bayonet: ''LUFTWAFFEN/WEHRMACHT K98 COMBAT BAYONET. (Seitengewehr 98K)Stamp 43 asw'' , Matching scabbard and serial numbers, Never been cleaned! Very hard to find ! In good condition. "
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    Matching, unsharpened, and in good condition is the way to collect them. ASW is a more common maker but it is not like they are making any more. Watch out, collecting bayonets can be addictive, it was for me.

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    I have doubts regarding the scabbard? Was it produced like this 1943 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arūnas View Post
    I have doubts regarding the scabbard? Was it produced like this 1943 ?
    Good eye, I missed it. My example does not have the stripes on the frog hook. Mine is from the d block. I hope one of the other bayonet regulars chime in.

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    Code maker/date, numbers & letter suffix on scabbard look OK to me. What about the WaA on the scabbard finial ball...can you make it out. Ought to be WaA519. Lastly, it is entirely possible a earlier component (frog-stud) could have been found at the bottom of a parts bin, lying on the production room floor under something, etc. and put to use. Such scenarios are not uncommon...particularly in arms production.

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    Lines on frog hook of that period is not typical, but it could be like PWCo mentioned a old stuff used, same as i saw not one piece, that was added these lines probably by owner, i would compare it with prewar piece frog hook, side by side. b.r.Andy
    PS it looks like the mouth piece was replaced, so possible the scabbard was repaired? or something else

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    Hörster eliminated the incised lines to the face of the frog hanging hook in the middle period of 1939. Personally, I do not believe this to be a Hörster made frog hanging hook assembly as it does not have the correct construction and appearance.

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    I've found this bayonet in one of the on-line shops and this designe of the hook looked for me strange. There are not so much good pictures of other parts. Unfortunately, I am not able to compare the Waffenamt codes.
    Thank you for your opinions.

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    If you did not buy it I would not and look for another one. ASW are not rare and I would get one that fits the norm rather than one that is not. Matching bayonets will come up for sale on this forum. I have bought several this way.

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    KKW22cal makes a good point. Hörster produced more S.84/98 than any other maker. Including more than half a million pieces in 1943 alone. In fact, the 43asw is the most common of all the bayonets made between 1934 and 1945.

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