Got a call from my local GD and he said he is in need of money and will sell me one if his prized K98,s.
This actual rifle is pictured in the book puctured.
This actual rifle is pictured in the book puctured.
Chance to buy Death Head marked K98
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It says right in the book that it went through rearsenaling. I am not worried at all about the bolt. The firing pin is unnumbered also.
Trying to understand why the numbers on the barrel are no longer white.
Those markings are made white with a white wax pencil. It is just so the numbers stand out in the black and white photo. The white wax is easily removed. People use all types of stuff to make markings stand out. Chalk, crayon whatever. Now a days, with nice color photos, we do not need it as much to see the markings.
That is the least of your worries with validating a rifle like this.
On the Wood?
Hercules
Senior Member
Yes. I am curious. I have heard of another gun like this and was wanting a comparison. Thank you.
He said there was two on it. I didn't get a picture of the second one. I am going back on tues to make the deal.
Hercules
Senior Member
This rifle is different for sure. I have heard of another like it, but more pictures would help. Good you posted it here for opinions before buying. If in doubt better not to buy it I think. Honestly, I don't have the experience to say 100% for sure either way. I am sure the guys who do will speak up before long.
Slowburn
Senior Member
I’ve heard of this rifle previously and I’m concerned about the stock. It’s not correct for a ‘37, so unless there is overwhelming evidence that it was used as spare parts during an SS depot repair I’d be nervous. I would want to see internal and external stock serial numbers.
Without seeing more pictures of stock and bands, I suspect it might ending up being a stock from a SS gew conversion that was used to restore a sporterized rifle while reusing the original buttplate... just a guess.
Without seeing more pictures of stock and bands, I suspect it might ending up being a stock from a SS gew conversion that was used to restore a sporterized rifle while reusing the original buttplate... just a guess.
All the metal parts match. Upper band,lower band, cleaning rod.
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Hercules
Senior Member
Here is an interesting thread that was started a few years ago. May help with this.
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?402-SS-Rifle-Variations
Possibly like the second item on this list.
II. Appropriated Heer rifles with DH on barrel and grip.(40-42?)
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?402-SS-Rifle-Variations
Possibly like the second item on this list.
II. Appropriated Heer rifles with DH on barrel and grip.(40-42?)
First off, the bolt is NOT from any SS depot conversion. Looks as if someone had a 655 bolt body and scrubbed it, then put WW1 bolt parts to make up the rest of the bolt (this is someones restoration attempt). The SS numbered bolt roots to match.
Second, stock should be numbered externally to match if an original replacment, and should be a specific font/style. I find it odd that the stock is from a Gew.98 but the rifle isn't. The rebarrel looks period for the SS2 depot, but it's odd to use this stock on the rifle, normally the original stock was used. Lets see the wrist deaths head and serial number.
I'm with slowburn, I'd guess a sporter resto or something else (unless the stock serial pans out), bolt was mismatched so they built a bolt that would seem "plausible", but isn't. Just because a rifle is in Backbone doesn't make it right, many of the rifles in that book are restored or just not correct. The missing white crayon is the least of your worries in authenticating one of these, the bolt in and of itself is enough to cut the value by half.
Second, stock should be numbered externally to match if an original replacment, and should be a specific font/style. I find it odd that the stock is from a Gew.98 but the rifle isn't. The rebarrel looks period for the SS2 depot, but it's odd to use this stock on the rifle, normally the original stock was used. Lets see the wrist deaths head and serial number.
I'm with slowburn, I'd guess a sporter resto or something else (unless the stock serial pans out), bolt was mismatched so they built a bolt that would seem "plausible", but isn't. Just because a rifle is in Backbone doesn't make it right, many of the rifles in that book are restored or just not correct. The missing white crayon is the least of your worries in authenticating one of these, the bolt in and of itself is enough to cut the value by half.
I would walk away from it. A return policy does not mean much if you are unlikely to exercise it. The fact that you have doubts already means you should walk away. It is easier to walk away from something before money changes hands. $3,500 should buy something very nice with no doubts.
