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All, I bought this rifle this evening nearly on a whim. Gentleman was liquidating his collection and this rifle gained little attention, so I decided to give it a home.

Any information this group could offer would be appreciated - ideally I'd like date of manufacture and general value.

All numbers match, original sling, Mauser "crest" on top of receiver. Missing the faux cleaning rod.

S/N 50921
 

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You have a Mauser DSM (Deutsche Sport Modell) that is very late in production - made around early to mid-1940. The end of Mauser DSM was somewhere in the 56,000 range though the bulk seem to end about 51,000. Yours has a bonus - its has an elm stock which is found on these later rifles. As to value, $1,000 no problem, perhaps more (if everything matches and it seems to) and the bore is nice. Stacking rod missing is a minor detractor and is very hard to find. I often wonder where the all went as many are missing. Hope you got a nice deal. Rifle looks really nice and the sling is a bonus. Best. dj
 
Dj I appreciate it. Bore is in really great shape, clear all the way with strong rifling. The deal was good, I told him a quick search netted values from 500-1200. He was good with my figure.

I've read a bit about dsm 34 vs 36. Does the late production really imply model changes and male this a dsm 36?

Lastly, I've also a 1898 30-40 krag with original sling. I really just don't know how to best preserve these old leather slings. Any advice?


You have a Mauser DSM (Deutsche Sport Modell) that is very late in production - made around early to mid-1940. The end of Mauser DSM was somewhere in the 56,000 range though the bulk seem to end about 51,000. Yours has a bonus - its has an elm stock which is found on these later rifles. As to value, $1,000 no problem, perhaps more (if everything matches and it seems to) and the bore is nice. Stacking rod missing is a minor detractor and is very hard to find. I often wonder where the all went as many are missing. Hope you got a nice deal. Rifle looks really nice and the sling is a bonus. Best. dj
 
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I have a similar elm-stocked Mauser DSM. I will dig it out tomorrow and compare. I think the DSM34 vs. 36 is mostly likely a bit of hype in actuality. Others will chime in about the leather goods, I just leave mine alone. I think some of the guys like Ballistol or perhaps Neats Foot Oil. Should get a couple of answers about these. You made out like a bandit price wise. Best and welcome. dj
 
Dsm

Do not use Neats Foot oil. It will ruin the color and stink! Use a cream called Black Rock. It's just the best. You can find it online. Banjomike
 
Bob, I appreciate the insight. My sling is certainly old, however perhaps not original, or an official dsm sling? It was definitely made for this gun, not a generic in any way. I didn't see a pic in your listing that matched. It does not have an H buckle, per se, rather a clasp type with cinch pin.

Based on the serial I'm sure it's late (could you guess a year range?), and I have seen the B/U stamps mentioned vs the E/N like I show on mine. Can you elaborate on the implications of the serial and stamp change?


 
More pics

I removed the receiver/barrel from the stock and could find no internal stamps... however I do see handwriting. It's lead, and I can't even tell which way to orientate it, or what it says/means.


I've attached three pictures, not sure on orientation.
 

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Barrel/Receiver Pics

Two images of stamps covered by the stock.
 

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could be an assy # ? The rifle is a Mauser based off the Ch51 barrel code. Maybe an Es340 type rifle so they didn't internally stamp the ser # like they did on the dsm34
 
could be an assy # ? The rifle is a Mauser based off the Ch51 barrel code. Maybe an Es340 type rifle so they didn't internally stamp the ser # like they did on the dsm34

This confuses.... as the rifle is Mauser made and is a DSM... isn't the Ch51 commonly found on these barrels, and the R/W interwoven is simply a Mauser Oberndorf "hallmark"? There's back/forth on the actual meaning of the R/W, but it's associated only with MO guns.

Back to the sling, I think what is on the gun could very well have been issued with it (appears to be a K98 sling). My earlier comment was that an actually DSM sling had an H-buckle and a single hole.
 
Bob as I've continued to look into this, I found an older post (2011) on another board (gunboards) where you stated that Mauser stocks would be stamped in the barrel channel with the s/n, whereas other makes would be penciled in.

There was a fair line of gunk/cosmoline where the barrel/receiver met the stock. Nothing looked monkeyed with - as I posted elsewhere, it looked like rifle had been together a long time.


And thanks on the sling info.


This confuses.... as the rifle is Mauser made and is a DSM... isn't the Ch51 commonly found on these barrels, and the R/W interwoven is simply a Mauser Oberndorf "hallmark"? There's back/forth on the actual meaning of the R/W, but it's associated only with MO guns.

Back to the sling, I think what is on the gun could very well have been issued with it (appears to be a K98 sling). My earlier comment was that an actually DSM sling had an H-buckle and a single hole.
 
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