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    Hello,

    I wanted to get opinions on this LSR k98.

    http://imgur.com/gallery/QN67vcA

    Scope is marked dow and serialized 1930 which I read the 19 prefix was correct, mount is marked 8334u
    Rifle is BCD4 115xx

    I am asking for opinions on the originality of the rifle as a whole?

    Thanks!

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    Hard to completely say from the pictures posted their not coming in real clear and would need some better pictures of the fonts and numbering. The floorplate looks correct though.

    Is the buttplate checkered or smooth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayer View Post
    Hello,

    I wanted to get opinions on this LSR k98.

    http://imgur.com/gallery/QN67vcA

    Scope is marked dow and serialized 1930 which I read the 19 prefix was correct, mount is marked 8334u
    Rifle is BCD4 115xx

    I am asking for opinions on the originality of the rifle as a whole?

    Thanks!
    Looks like a Gustloff LSR, stock looks correct, although it may have been sanded. The scope is a Dow center focus and the mount looks like an early type with milled bands. The scope and mount were originally on a Sauer finished rifle. We need clearer photos and some close ups. That Cavalry rear sight cover needs to go.

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    This gun has been circulating lately and as best as I can tell has been completely refinished.
    Being a 5-digit Gustloff rifle, it should be phosphated and not blued.

    Not a collector grade gun by any means.

    I had to tell the owner of it last year of its condition and non-originality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce98k View Post
    This gun has been circulating lately and as best as I can tell has been completely refinished.
    Being a 5-digit Gustloff rifle, it should be phosphated and not blued.

    Not a collector grade gun by any means.

    I had to tell the owner of it last year of its condition and non-originality.
    What would you say the value or a good price is for this weapon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayer View Post
    What would you say the value or a good price is for this weapon?
    To be honest , his asking Price when it was listed at GB was in the Ball Park . Just the Scope Mount & Base sell for between 4k to 5k .
    But as Bruce pointed out its been ReBlued and has wrong stock , plus it should also have a checkered butt plate as well .
    Last edited by Dave Roberts; 03-02-2019 at 10:40 PM.

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    Another thing I noticed, correct me if I'm wrong, but all proof markings on the receiver point to a Sauer receiver. (37 proof on right side and top of receiver... hard to see with the quality of photos but clearly present) and the eagle on the left side of the receiver. I believe now that this is a sauer receiver that was assembled with an all matching BCD4 (why????) Which leads me to the question: 1. Did the Russians reassemble captured German weapons?

    My thought process is that if I was king of fake snipers, and I had an all matching BCD4 rifle, why not just use the existing receiver to drill my original scope and mount into. That doesnt make any sense at all, so I am wondering if something like that was done by the Russians.

    Is there any other explanation for such an odd piece??

    Thanks.

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    Sayer,
    JP Sauer used bcd 4 receivers to assemble Long Side Rail snipers. JPS blued these receivers while Gustloff used phosphate.

    The main issue with this rifle is it has a 5 digit serial number. Sauer did not use a 5 digit serial number. So you know that the receiver is a Gustloff, but it is blued when it should be phosphate.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdarnell19 View Post
    Sayer,
    JP Sauer used bcd 4 receivers to assemble Long Side Rail snipers. JPS blued these receivers while Gustloff used phosphate.

    The main issue with this rifle is it has a 5 digit serial number. Sauer did not use a 5 digit serial number. So you know that the receiver is a Gustloff, but it is blued when it should be phosphate.

    Hope this helps.
    I understand that gustloff did the final acceptance. But what about this...

    Even in these blurry photos, when zoomed you can clearly see the presence of the WaA 37 on the right side of the receiver, and the eagle on the left side of the receiver. (Sauer acceptance) the waffenamt on the top of the receiver is too difficult to see.


    http://imgur.com/gallery/ssQrqDP

    ^ Zoomed photos of acceptance marks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdarnell19 View Post
    Sayer,
    JP Sauer used bcd 4 receivers to assemble Long Side Rail snipers. JPS blued these receivers while Gustloff used phosphate.

    The main issue with this rifle is it has a 5 digit serial number. Sauer did not use a 5 digit serial number. So you know that the receiver is a Gustloff, but it is blued when it should be phosphate.

    Hope this helps.
    Also, I'm pretty sure it has been refinished as well, since gustloff phosphates everything. I am simply trying to figure out what's up with the acceptance stamps on the receiver and why this was done. Thanks!

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