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    Hello All,

    I just acquired my 1st Mauser! Based on my research here, it is an all matching 1944 byf K block. I need help with knowing what, if anything I should do about its condition. It is pitted (the bolt and floor plate are the worst. There is almost no blueing left as best I can tell. The ejector spring and band spring are broken and the cleaning rod is missing. Don't know how to tell if the stock has been sanded. No marking on the stock. The bore is very nice though. There are no import markings (vet bring back).

    I paid $600 for it. Was it worth it??? I would like to know more about it. Is it a good one?

    Thanks!

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    looks like the rifle was acid cleaned to get all the rust off of it. That grey looking finish is a result of the acid cleaning. Stock was sanded heavily that's why no proofs are left on it. Shoot it if it looks like it has a fair bore, but don't expect a profit if you sell it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gill120 View Post
    looks like the rifle was acid cleaned to get all the rust off of it. That grey looking finish is a result of the acid cleaning. Stock was sanded heavily that's why no proofs are left on it. Shoot it if it looks like it has a fair bore, but don't expect a profit if you sell it.
    Thanks for the reply. Looks like I got burned on this one. I guess that's how you learn. At least it still has historical value. Hopefully it will be a good shooter. If not, a $600 wall hanger I guess.

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    You didn't get burned on it if it's a decent shooter.
    Alles, was man im Leben braucht, ist eine gute Frau, ein treuer Hund und eine nette alte Mauser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by werra View Post
    ..Looks like I got burned on this one. I guess that's how you learn.
    Not really. Not by a long shot actually. Over $1000 for a MM which has no historical or collector value. $4000+ for fake/misrepresented rifles. But you're very right about the learning part. It will come soon enough, especially if you follow along here and search through the references. Of course the books written by Mike and Bruce are amazing and THE authoritative source.
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    Don't beat yourself up over it. You got a matching, shootable k98 for $600. Finish is bad but may be a candidate for a good reblue as the finish on it is no longer original anyway and it's prone to rust unprotected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdog View Post
    You didn't get burned on it if it's a decent shooter.
    Thanks for the encouragement Sheepdog! I need it right now.

    The bore is actually really good. Maybe it will redeem itself just a little!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mowzerluvr View Post
    Don't beat yourself up over it. You got a matching, shootable k98 for $600. Finish is bad but may be a candidate for a good reblue as the finish on it is no longer original anyway and it's prone to rust unprotected.
    Thanks Mowzerluvr.

    What is the preferred method of bluing for this rifle, in this condition? Just cold blue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by werra View Post
    Thanks Mowzerluvr.

    What is the preferred method of bluing for this rifle, in this condition? Just cold blue?
    Ever wanted to learn how to rust blue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by werra View Post
    Thanks Mowzerluvr.

    What is the preferred method of bluing for this rifle, in this condition? Just cold blue?
    Unsure the cost of a hot blue dip but I'd check that out myself. Refinish, if even just hearing the word is a no-no in the collector circle but for the decent price you paid for a matching rifle, the finish is ruined and non original anyway. It will all match in color once done. It will always have a "non original" finish anyway, once reblued in the original way, it will look a lot better at the range shooting it. I would have no reservations doing it.

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