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    Default Top 11 Most Common codes/yrs

    .... for those interested, in this general info...

    Of course, 1. is the most commonly produced maker & year, and the number in parenthesis is production (x1000) based on estimates from Karen/Steve's books and may be rounded. Of course, rankings of guns known in collections or for sale may differ from these production rankings
    1. byf 44 .... (700)
    2. byf 43 .... (535)
    3. 42 1940 ..(419)
    4. dot 1944 .(371)
    5. byf 42 .... (368)
    6. bcd 43 ....(340)
    7. byf 41 .... (336)
    8. dou 44 ....(321)
    9. ce 43 ......(309)
    10. 42 1939 ...(280)
    11. dou 43 ....(272)
    12. bcd 44 ....(240+)
    13. 243 1939 (238)
    14. ce 44 ......(230)
    15. dot 1943 .(227)
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    Thanks, Bob!

    Where would byf 42 fall on this list?
    Wanted: K98 Dou-42 bolt 5235b, and Port. bayonet G19383

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsmgguy View Post
    Thanks, Bob!

    Where would byf 42 fall on this list?
    ... revision due...

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    42 1940 and 1939 have high production totals but are difficult to find matching and nice. I’ve spent 3 years looking for a proper 1939 and I’m always hunting.

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    Good updated info Bob. Ultimately "survivability" is also very important with respect to how we value things now based upon scarcity.
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    Bob,

    This is a great idea, would love to see this information in one place, found an old gunboards posting that made the attempt, but appears outdated.


    For when this list grows, BLM 1:

    1936 (S/237): 11,500 95% yield 11,000
    1937 (S/237): 46,200 95% yield 43,900
    1938 (S/237, 237): 91,700 95% yield 87,000

    Agree with the survivability quotient. Would be interesting to try an quantify what is available over a 1-5 year time-frame from major sales sites in terms of no excuse K98's by code. Would be interested to see the availability quotient, which may also speak to the extent that it can, about the survivability quotient.

    1. Bruce Karem and Michael Steves, Karabiner 98k , Vol 1, (United States of America, Third Party Press, 2012), p446.

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    That's pretty interesting.

    Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence but the matching examples I've seen on the market since I started looking in the last year seem to suggest a more even playing field: a good amount of dou, ce, bcd, and even bnz examples and not any particular overflow of byf or dot rifles.
    I'm also greatly relieved to learn that the rifles I'm looking for are the most widely produced.

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    Very interesting info Bob! It makes me think about where the guns from particular manufacturers ended up as we know that certain maker/year rifles are seen more often as Russian captures rather than bring backs. Great stuff!!


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    I can't help with the Russian captures, but I've done extensive research on the Norwegian captures.

    Here is the first chart:
    Production Totals.jpg
    From top to bottom in descending order are the manufacturer/assembler with the largest production numbers. Mauser Oberndorf accounted for 31.88% of the total production of K98k and Berlin-Suhler Waffen-und Fahrzeugwerke accounted for 0.53% of the total production.

    For example, the numbers of Mauser Berlin-Borsigwalde and Berlin-Lübecker Maschinenfabrik are very noticeable. Mauser Berlin-Borsigwalde accounted for 9.95% of the total production of K98k and the Norwegian captures are 15.34%. Berlin-Lübecker Maschinenfabrik accounted for 5.85% of the total production of K98k and the Norwegian captures are 9.79%.

    Here is the second chart:
    Production Years.jpg
    You can see, the most common production years of K98k in Norway are 1941, 1940 and 1939.

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    Nice work. I have a Norway 1938 bSw, still in Norway though. Can't get it shipped out of the country.

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