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    Default Identifying Std modell (?)

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    Hello,

    I haven’t seen this designation on the receiver rail, ‘waffenfabrik mauser’ only
    This mauser rifle (supposed to be Std modell, for decoration) is in Japan, and someone showed me those photos.
    I am wondering why this rifle don’t have ‘standard modell’ designation instead..
    Do you have some opinions about its history?

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    Default Standard Modell

    Likely a Chinese copy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce98k View Post
    Likely a Chinese copy...
    Make sense at once.. Maybe the Japanese owner deleted zhongzheng markings and imitated like a Std modell, I assume..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazitt View Post
    Make sense at once.. Maybe the Japanese owner deleted zhongzheng markings and imitated like a Std modell, I assume..
    Any chance of fake marking..? (receiver top)

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    Default Standard Modell

    Per the 4th edition of the Ball book, there are 2 images of Chinese copies of a Banner and 1907 rifle.
    The sidewall marking is also an anomaly, as none of that type are documented. The side rail marking nearly
    always carries a reference to Oberndorf as this one does not.

    Bands and hardware just look to crude to be fabricated by Mauser so I hold my earlier conclusion of a Chinese copy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce98k View Post
    Per the 4th edition of the Ball book, there are 2 images of Chinese copies of a Banner and 1907 rifle.
    The sidewall marking is also an anomaly, as none of that type are documented. The side rail marking nearly
    always carries a reference to Oberndorf as this one does not.

    Bands and hardware just look to crude to be fabricated by Mauser so I hold my earlier conclusion of a Chinese copy.
    I currently checked the 2nd edition which I only have, and I agree with you..
    I think the seller cheated on my contact in Japan who is actually going to buy this rifle.
    Thank you for your opinion!

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    Default Standard modell, likely a Chinese copy

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    I took these close-up photos of another Mauser today, and found a reverse swastika on left side!

    I do not know any type of Mauser that stamped it yet, but well.. it seems to be same marking with below one.

    http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread....dd-stamps-help




    AND OMG

    ZhongZheng rifle has same backward swastika.. must be same model with above photos of fake Std modells.
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