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    I saw that as well but couldn’t be sure of what I was seeing or if my eyes were playing tricks on me. Figured I would play it safe and let everyone else look it over😆

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCS03 View Post
    I saw that as well but couldn’t be sure of what I was seeing or if my eyes were playing tricks on me. Figured I would play it safe and let everyone else look it over
    It’s good, I agree it’s an SS2 marking.


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    Here's my m/m one for reference, a converted G98.
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    Great thread. These are some of my most fav k98s

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    Let’s talk barrel shoulder stamps:

    Here’s the list of the ones I can remember

    TS
    star
    SS2 dhd
    F.S.
    HW

    Am I missing any? It has been thought in the past that these may be an acceptance of the shortened Gew barrel, but it seems to lack a little bit of consistency. I know I’ve seen a couple replacement barrels that had a shoulder stamp. Any new theories on this?

    The rifle posted above with the +dhd is curious that it has a SS2 on the shoulder. Presumably the barrel was shortened at the dachau depot as part of the original conversion and barrel shortening, so why no large SS2 dhd? I assume this ties into what Mike said about the +dhd being part of later reworks. I’ve also seen an example that had no dhd’s except the small ss2 one on the shoulder. Hmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowburn View Post
    Let’s talk barrel shoulder stamps:

    Here’s the list of the ones I can remember

    TS
    star
    SS2 dhd
    F.S.
    HW

    Am I missing any? It has been thought in the past that these may be an acceptance of the shortened Gew barrel, but it seems to lack a little bit of consistency. I know I’ve seen a couple replacement barrels that had a shoulder stamp. Any new theories on this?

    The rifle posted above with the +dhd is curious that it has a SS2 on the shoulder. Presumably the barrel was shortened at the dachau depot as part of the original conversion and barrel shortening, so why no large SS2 dhd? I assume this ties into what Mike said about the +dhd being part of later reworks. I’ve also seen an example that had no dhd’s except the small ss2 one on the shoulder. Hmm
    That is a whole 'nother can of worms there. I see the TS, Star, FS and HW on purpose made short barrels, and have seen the SS2 on shortened barrels (but also unshortened). I really don't know, but if I had one with a shortened Gew bbl I would expect it to have an SS2 or one of the others.
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    I've been told that the first post is a bit confusing, and I know why - there is no timeline for when these skull types appear based on bbl markings. I can tell you I have a lot of observations but many are missing the barrrel date, people sometimes refuse to take guns apart. I haven't spent a lot of time trending that, just a rough outline of *about when these show up. I'm going to add an timeline, it's surprising for some of it. The "+" mark one is early but as I said it shows up later with the "lazy S" type for some reason, more on that later I guess. I'm going to update the first post with the rough timeline.
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    Ok, I've updated the initial thread to keep up with the evolution of this thread. A few thoughts:

    1. -Why did the SS stop making SS Gew conversions? Well, clearly when the Army allowed the Waffen-SS access to army depots they were no longer needed. They end when that happened.
    2. - Why did the SS spend time reworking older SS Gewehr rifles with bent bolts if they didn't need them anymore?- they did need them, training units weren't allowed access to Army depot weapons

    I think that the "+" marked guns => Lazy S guns => "SS" skull guns => "01" guns.

    So go back to the first thread and look over the graph I made, see if that makes the subject more clear.
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    Very helpful diagram. Nice to finally see trends starting with these. Mike, if you want a date for a = head, just see my thread down the page.

    http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread....gew-conversion

    Also, I believe one of my lazy s rifles is an early ‘37. I’ll check when I get a chance and add pics.

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