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bcd 4 lsr without scope or mount - the other rifle

Friends:

For those of you who have been following my other post (http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?36378-LGS-find-K98k-42-1940-Luftwaffe-marked), here is the second rifle. This has been quite the week, with the discovery and purchase of two K98k rifles at bargain prices. I got home from my business trip yesterday and found the bcd 4 that my wife had bought exceeded my wildest expectations. According to the information provided by folks here on the forum, this rifle was probably captured at the factory by US troops and made its way home with a GI. Family of the vet that brought this and a 1940 Mauser (see link to other thread) back from WWII sold it to a LGS and that's where I found them. I originally bought the 1940 all matching rifle and passed on this one as I thought that this bcd 4 had been modified by some Bubba over the years, since it had a rough looking stock, blued barrel bands and sight hood while everything else has a phosphate finish, and a strange safety installed. However, several of you enlightened me as to what this rifle was, so I asked my wife to go back and buy it on Monday morning while I headed to the airport. Turns out the bcd 4 is all matching and quite a unique specimen. It is very clean, and shows no sign of ever having been fired. This has been well cared for and it is amazing that no one added a scope over the years.

Out the door price was $351. It was priced $100 cheaper by the LGS than the other one I bought since someone had “made a mess of it trying to mount a scope”.

Here are some detailed photos presented for your viewing pleasure. Let me know what you think about this find!
 

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This gives a few views of the unique safety.
 

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Some more photos

The bore is immaculate and looks brand new!
 

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Receiver and barrel markings

Note the holes for the LSR mount (which was never affixed).
 

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Bolt assembly

photos attached - note that the firing pin has a matching serial number
 

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buttplate and bottom plate

see photos - note the red oxide primer inside of the checkered buttplate
 

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Handguard and butt end of rifle

photos show the handguard and butt end of the stock
 

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Stock and magazine/trigger guard

Photos show the stock and the magazine/trigger guard
 

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barrel markings and trigger

see photo for barrel markings
 

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barrel bands and sight hood

barrel bands and sight hood
 

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Immensely cool gun, congrats again. Not only do you find an LSR for very cheap, but it's also an unfinished 3-hole LSR! I love the phosphate mixed in and the rough late bcd stock.
I wonder what that streak on the handguard is, too.
 
Great 3 Hole BCD 4 , these rifles are very collectable in this state . Way to many of these 3 Hole BCD 4 Rifles have been turned into LSR`s which is a Travesty in its own right . What ever You do Please keep this Rifle as found in original state . If You do ever part with it try to sell it to someone who will also keep it in its original state . :thumbsup:
 
Great finds!

For the gentleman that are knowledgeable on the development of the 3 hole mount systems, is there anywhere that covers the development or history of these systems? I have a Mauser that has 3 holes drilled and tapped in the side rail I always wondered what version of mount it used? It hasn’t matched any I have found as yet.
 
Pictures are a must as aftermarket mounts exist too. The earliest Type I SSR had just 3 holes but then it was a continuous beef up until the LSR.
 
Great finds!

For the gentleman that are knowledgeable on the development of the 3 hole mount systems, is there anywhere that covers the development or history of these systems? I have a Mauser that has 3 holes drilled and tapped in the side rail I always wondered what version of mount it used? It hasn’t matched any I have found as yet.

This rifle was in the process of being converted to a long side rail sniper when it was most likely captured at the factory. The thick sidewall LSR system was developed primarily with Sauer. It was an evolution of lessons learned from the short comings of the short side rail system. I recommend Bruce and MIkes set on the k98, its all covered in depth.
 
Great 3 Hole BCD 4 , these rifles are very collectable in this state . Way to many of these 3 Hole BCD 4 Rifles have been turned into LSR`s which is a Travesty in its own right . What ever You do Please keep this Rifle as found in original state . If You do ever part with it try to sell it to someone who will also keep it in its original state . :thumbsup:

I plan to keep this one for awhile, and don’t worry because it will remain in its current condition!


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Great rifle, and it is so much greater because no one screwed it up by adding a scope and drilling for pins, etc. Awesome find!

Jeff

(By the way, I have a 1985 Land Cruiser)
 

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This rifle was in the process of being converted to a long side rail sniper when it was most likely captured at the factory. The thick sidewall LSR system was developed primarily with Sauer. It was an evolution of lessons learned from the short comings of the short side rail system. I recommend Bruce and MIkes set on the k98, its all covered in depth.
Will take a look, I’m sure I saw that section but probably skipped over it.

Pictures are a must as aftermarket mounts exist too. The earliest Type I SSR had just 3 holes but then it was a continuous beef up until the LSR.
This may be a . . . “beforemarket” vs aftermarket. Will do some more research.
 
Yeah no telling, I assume it’s staggered hole spacing? If it’s straight in a row it might be a Griffin and Howe. Here’s an ssr base I bought in a parts bucket, no clue about it’s origin.
 

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