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    Default $25,000 s/147k

    If I had had a few more beers I would have really gone down the deep end on this one but will hold my ammo back.
    What we have here is profiteering at its worst. Its one thing to market goods for a reasonable profit but when you have
    individual dealers continually trying to push the envelope on prices, albeit at exorbitant rates this doesn't bode well for our
    collecting community.

    I am at a loss for words in trying to describe the current situation but its really sad. When we collectors have to compete against
    re-marketers paying retail for collectible rifles and pistols, only to have it end up on a website or auction and selling for ridiculous prices.. just unreal.

    I know that some individuals would say the "market rules" but I guess we just threw decorum out the window.


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    New levels of insanity every day....

    Didn't even bother looking at all the pics...anything look humpy?

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    Well said Bruce. Unfortunately decorum was never part of their vocabulary over there. Year after year things seem to be getting worse all in the name of the almighty dollar. They appear to have no shortage of ignorant buyers with bottomless pits of cash.

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    I'll just add that to my shopping cart! I understand on a dealer making a little bit on a deal, but really that is ridiculous!
    Thanks, Lee

    Looking for the matching stock to my S/42 1937 sn.5199 q. It was sold on ebay 2014. WTB or WTT for it.

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    I stopped visiting pre98.com after the fiasco with the Swedish marked 98k. I have purchased from him before and those purchases were fine. I stated the following on Dave's site but will put it out here as well. A good dealer has connections and pickers who bring them items. A good dealer does not have to go to the same sites where those who could be that dealer's customers also go, then outbid those same potential customers to then slap hefty markups on the items only to attempt to sell them to the same potential customers that he outbid initially. I guarantee you that the owner of pre98 visits Dave's site because he frequently bids on items that are discussed there. I wouldn't be surprised if he lurks here also. I would bet he chose his GunBroker user name based on the fact that he creeps around sites like these. I think he likely gets some pleasure out of being discussed. He definitely hasn't altered his behavior. My analogy for him is the polar bear that hangs around cities in order to raid dumpsters and eat pets. A healthier polar bear stalks and hunts in the wild. A good dealer pulls good stuff out of the wild and builds a loyal following based on knowledge, fair dealing, and the ability to find desirable items. That's not what is happening here at all. I can afford to pay his markups, but I won't.
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    It's a shocking price tag - while I wish they were worth that (I have some of them) they just aren't. If you are rich though, and impatient, then you just throw money at the desire and get what you want. Unfortunately, what usually happens is you get taken to the cleaners, but people that buy from him are not our peers, they have nothing in common with collectors like us. We struggle to pay for the next rifle, sometimes we owe more people than we can pay, we sell stuff we wanted to keep to buy other things we want to keep. We treasure each purchase because it cost so much (not just money), we make friends who scout for us and pick for us. We hang out on forums, exchange info. Then dealers buy rifles at full retail using the info that we put in books, then relist them on their sites at double the price they paid.

    You know what? We as collectors are the ones that pay the price, because we lose out on the opportunity to get something cool. That is why Bruce is upset, another rifle that could go to a real collector is going to a purchaser or accumulator (although I doubt this one will ever sell, at least if he holds true to his "no negotiation" tactic to sell it).
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    I hope the shit eating dog dies holding onto that rifle and they shove it up his ass as they put him in the casket......

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    Dave I cant help laughing...

    I guess now my matching S/42K is gotta be worth 35,000!
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    This Guy ain`t motivated by the love of the Hobby , its how much he can profit from the hobby that is his motivating factor !!!!!! .

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    It really is shocking to say the least but there are still a lot of good rifles out there left to be discovered that we as collectors hopefully we'll find.

    Was talking to a really good collector friend of mine last week, about two weeks ago he found an all matching 1939 337 out of the woodwork! He told me he already sold it to another good friend of his because he thought I wouldn't be interested in it because I already had one. I'm okay with having another one!
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