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Konigliche Gewehrfabrik Danzig - additional markings

PJB

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I am looking for information on the markings on weapons produced by Konigliche Gewehrfabrik Danzig.
It is mainly about good quality photo (for possible publication - with permission).


1. Double dating - DANZIG 19XX / xx
German marking used during WWI. Probably used to repair weapons damaged during fighting and directed to be repaired at a weapons factory?

http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?17507-Battle-damaged-1912-15-Danzig-Gew-98

2. Double date - DANZIG 19XX / 1920 - (Weimar stamp)
German marking used when creating the Reichswehr after the end of WWI

3. Polish marking - FB Radom
Polish marking on weapons subject to renovation by Fabryka Broni (FB) in Radom in the interwar period (1927-1939)

http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?37237-Saw-an-interesting-G98-today

4. Israeli marking - 7.62
Marking used when changing the caliber of weapons to 7.62x51 NATO ammunition in the 1950s.


5. Iranian / Persian marking -
- lion emblem with saber

https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?1090445-1917-1920-Kar98a-Germany-Czech-Iraq


6. Norwegian marking - HAER - KAL. 7.62 m / m
Norwegian marking when changing the caliber of the weapon to ammunition 7.62x63 mm (.30-06 Sprg.)
NOTE: this type of marking has not yet been found


7. Iraqi marking
NOTE: this type of marking has not yet been found


and other unknown so far.
 
In regard to the first rifle. Danzig didn’t assemble rifles in 1912, gew 98 production halted at Danzig in 1909 and didn’t begin again until 1914. These 1912 dated receivers were Danzig made, however they were assembled later as is the case with this rifle. 1915 Danzig production finished receivers from multiple sources. Paul could probably tell you why these were made but never finished in 1912.
 
Yeah I have one of the 1912/15 rifles in my collection unfortunately someone put an extra coating on the stock, but the rest of the rifle is original. But who's to say a 100% matching Danzig 1912 Gew98 may show up one day who knows.

You never know if one does that would be something to see.
 
The production of the G98 generally ended 1909, really 1908 was the last year of strong production for most makers. From 1909 through 1914 only Spandau made significant numbers, every year about 20,000-40,000 rifles, the higher range once they finished their 98a program (during 1910).

Actual G98 production at Danzig ended in 1909, it restarted in 1914 (same for everyone.. Danzig was hampered by the ongoing 98a production in 1914. They made both in 1914m but low production of both. Apparently these arsenals were not able to carry on production of two rifles types at once, none seem to have done it, the change overs show modest ranges for each variation, followed by strong numbers the second year. Erfurt the only exception, they seemed capable of making a number of complex systems at the same time, though with quality issues).

While two Danzig/12 receivers are known, neither were made in 1912, both were assembled in 1915. 1912 was a strong 98a year for Danzig, actually the strongest year they made the 98a (d-block). I suspect they made a few spare receivers for the G98 during 1912, 1912 was really one of the worse years for G98 production, no one was making them. Only Spandau, Amberg and Mauser made any, it was Mauser's lowest production year, just 2000 rifles by range. Amberg was very low also, only Spandau made a significant number. Perhaps it was a special run to keep workers busy, it is well known that the arsenals suffered from skilled labor shortages, especially in Danzig, they had a hard time attracting skilled labor that far out. The arsenals always had such problems, slow downs due to funding issues, private firms luring the best workers away (Loewe/DWM had an very bad reputation in Berlin, made American trade journals, probably copying Henry Ford, he did the same, though Loewe offered both high wages and excellent care for workers, - Germany led the world in such innovations, before WWI American progressives and English (Il)Liberals like Lloyd George, outright copied German ideas of welfare for workers and old age and indigent care for citizens - it didn't stop the same assholes from vilifying these same men in 1914, Bismarck was one of the earliest proponents of such welfare, 1910-1913 lauded, 1914-1915 declared monsters, the Kaiser likewise declared a man of peace through 1914, then a savage in 1915, hypocrites are never out of style in media or politics)
 
1. Double dating - DANZIG 19XX / xx
 

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