SS Marked S/27

Hello,

I beleive I have discovered an SS Re-Worked ERMA rifle and I thought I would get some opinions on it.

Thanks!
Brandon

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So far so good in my opinion

I think so as well I would like to see some closer pictures of the bolt numbers though if you're able but it does look like it has a lot of promise.

What are they asking for it by the way?

Nice! Any stamps or numbers on the stock?

Unfortunatly I missed out on the rifle! I couldn't see any marks on the stock though



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I’ll disagree, bolt is fake even from these photos. I suspect floorplate is fake too, better pics would confirm. I’d bet the whole rifle is built from a legit bbl added to the receiver, or a Russian capture rebuilt. It would take much better photos to be sure.


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mrfarb said:

I’ll disagree, bolt is fake even from these photos. I suspect floorplate is fake too, better pics would confirm. I’d bet the whole rifle is built from a legit bbl added to the receiver, or a Russian capture rebuilt. It would take much better photos to be sure.

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Can you prove that the SS didn't do it Mr. Bookman?

Sszza4

This one was owned by Slowburn, believe he had stated he felt it had issues as well.

Brandon

Let me elaborate. The font on the bolt is wrong, and the gas shield shouldn't have 4 digits. It also just "looks" wrong, something you get from seeing a lot of these as I have. The number on the floorplate looks wrong as well, but further than that the electro-etch used was very fragile, when an original gets some patina the number can totally disappear. If an original had that much patina on the floorplate that number would be gone, yet it is very bold. This barreled receiver is a possible combination, but it's odd that the Erma firing proof seems to be ground, but there is a serial number (which is not typical of other SSZZA4 reworked rifles). Most likely it was removed when it was reworked, but the serial added to the receiver is typical of those added upon importation into the US. If it was done at rework, the font would match the barrel. Also, bands should only have 2 digits, and they are also the wrong font.

These reworked SSZZA4 rifles are not common, but follow patterns. Attached is an S/147 reworked RC. Note - serial ground on receiver, but firing proof left intact. Other reworked VZ24 rifles have the same treatment - the only SSZZA4 rifles that retain the original serial are the first reworks from existing rifles, but those do not have a barrel serial number.

There, now the faker can fix the issues with it before it reappears, or the next one. But he better be good, I have tricks up my sleeve to detect them.

That's very true about the etched numbers.

Hello,

They were asking 2k.

Thank you guys for all your insight, I really need to get more Active on this forum!

I guess I'm glad I missed out on it now

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Brandon said:

..They were asking 2k.

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Of course they were. Someone put a lot of work into that. On a more serious note I wonder how many are actively faking higher end rifles? It seems very common but most are of such poor quality or have such glaring inconsistencies that they fail to fool many but I also think some of the better operators are getting better at it.

Brandon said:

I guess I'm glad I missed out on it now

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It's said here quite often the Nazi items and SS or TK in particular are a minefield. It's also been said that many or most of what you see is fake. I don't know for sure but I do know caution is needed.

For a 2k rifle, I would expect a lot better, clearer more detailed photos. I think they are using the flash and glare to cover the issues here. Nice try though, when I first glanced at the rifle on the phone I thought it had a really good chance.

Sorry I’m a bit late seeing this... but yup, it was mine up until a couple years ago. I had talked to mike about this one years ago when I got it out of Texas and concluded then that the barrel was good, receiver was in question and the rest was some kind of restoration.
It wasn’t a bad restoration until you look close and compare to known good ones.

Unfortunately better ones just don’t exist in Canada.

Thanks Slowburn, I hate that people fake these for the money. I have collected K98s for a while, but having no experience with SS contract rifles I had no clue it was faked/no correct.

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I’d guess I sold it about three years ago with full disclosure.

I kind of expected it to turn up again one of these days for sale without being honestly represented.

Slowburn said:

I’d guess I sold it about three years ago with full disclosure.

I kind of expected it to turn up again one of these days for sale without being honestly represented.

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It's happened before to people on this site. Sold honestly and then returned something else. Recently a 'barreled action' returned for sale as 'all matching'. Thinking he might have even thrown 'bringback' in there but not positive. It sucks but other than calling them out when found I'm not sure there's any way to stop it?

My ss rework

Thanks for using my rifle as an example mr.farb! Those pics are of my
Rc ss rework. I feel privileged now lol!

M1 sniper said:

Thanks for using my rifle as an example mr.farb! Those pics are of my
Rc ss rework. I feel privileged now lol![emoji106]

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You have a real one, you can be proud! I saved these pics long ago, it’s an important example.


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Thank you ! Is my rifle in your book?