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Danzig Gewehr 98m Reworked in 1939?

An HZa acceptance would be far smaller, typically they are very small, though it can vary, ordnance staffs and some HZa are larger, but many are so small they are hard to decipher. A walnut stock should hold the marking better though, I would take the stock in to some better lighting and see if you can find a small acceptance. It should have one somewhere...
 
Alright, ill check when im back at home, Maybe i just need to look closer in better light. Ill keep you all posted.
 
..Anyway, short of sorting though rifles randomly hunting for potential comparisons this will have to be a mystery unless the OP can discover a HZa stamp somewhere. Then we could do comparisons of rifles from that HZa.

Yes I was hoping for a depot stamp that was overlooked initially. Still an interesting subject rifle for me. Thanks as usual for the additional input!
 
Interesting

Whatever the mystery is about assembly ....this is one of those "If it could talk guns". :happy0180:
 
Here is MikeF's DWM/18, some similarities, the stock in particular. This is generally how they were supplied, no RS markings (though it is possible some variations exist, shouldn't, but possible, - BSW was on a short leash until 1935, so these probably were made starting in 1935, probably no later than 1939)

http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?11906-1918-DWM-Gew98M

The more i think about it the less inclined I am to consider any of the full frontal nazi eagles BSW, they aren't waffenamts, they seem out of place unless a subsequent application. Besides although BSW was fully state owned and deeply infected by national socialism by 1937, they really didn't go full frontal nazi on the stock waffenamts, they did on the metal staring in 1937 (nazi stick eagles, lacking the swastika, not until the 4000 block of 1938 did the RR waffenamts pick up swastikas, the FP not until the 2300/a block of 38)

Anyway, neat rifle, the patterns on the stock are very strange though, - authentic I think, just odd and hard to decipher...
 
Speaking of the 1937, the barrel band does have an eagle, and a suww 1937 on it i dont know if this helps in identifying anything
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It is one of the upgrade rear bands, only Simson and HZa Spandau made them. It would have been marked like this when made, not necessarily the installation. It was designed to give more surface area to this load bearing surface. As anyone who has owned a G98 will testify, the original narrow band sometimes slips loose the spring and under load can marr the stock around this point. I am sure the extra metal keeps it from, or less prone to, breaking.

I assume this band matches? If it doesn't it is unrelated, though the spring holding in place would also suggest this was the original configuration. It does lend some credibility to the "guess" that this was HZa Spandau done; while these bands were supplied to others the combination of the weird stock acceptance and this band does support this scenario. Depots, especially small fries, didn't usually add the E/H (in the Republican era they did, you often see E/H, E/M or E/P, this is why I think a big depot might be behind this, but HZa Spandau is usually proud of their work and probably the most prone to marking the stock...), though I would still tend to hang my hat of these E/H and nazi eagles were applied at different times (though I can't see a good reason why)
 
Yes, the band does match, i also read on a different forum someone stating that many Gewehr 98's didn't get a HZa stamping, im new to collecting, and have no idea, but i looked closer and unfortunately still cant find one.
 
I also wanted to post some pictures of the sling.

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Good that you looked, all you could do really.. what other forum? I really can't comment on the worthiness of the observation without reading what was actually stated and who made the comment... have you a link?

Yes, the band does match, i also read on a different forum someone stating that many Gewehr 98's didn't get a HZa stamping, im new to collecting, and have no idea, but i looked closer and unfortunately still cant find one.
 
Link won't open, for me anyway, not a forum I am familiar with... while I have been known to be wrong before (my wife tells me all the time I sound smarter than I really am, - and she ought to know...), I think I know the subject as well a someone can today.

Generally, rifles that pass through a depot receive acceptance, this is for accountability and the German military was all about accountability and responsibility in work conducted. They slapped acceptance (waffenamts and HZa stamps) on everything, even little meaningless components that had to stand alone in the ordnance system. Now were there instances where a depot overlooked an acceptance, or let one slip by, I am sure that occurred, - that said all work was suppose to have been marked and the vast majority was, especially at the larger facilities.

A far more likely scenario is that the marking was small or lightly struck and it was worn away, - this is common, often all you can see is a impression or indention. Sometimes a partial. The wrist is a common wear point and it probably doesn't take long to wear a small marking down. This is far less a problem in the Republican era, they used large stamps and early on placed them on the sides, often over the cypher (Cassel did this often).
 
Yea kind of sad that i couldn't find it, but i do believe the gun is legit, i can't see evidence why it wouldn't be. i still need to take it our of its stock over the weekend and see what i find in there.
 
Yea kind of sad that i couldn't find it, but i do believe the gun is legit, i can't see evidence why it wouldn't be.

Relax. Your rifle is fine... and probably fairly desirable to someone who collects these. We're digging because we're trying to learn not discredit your rifle. Definitely IMHO rebarreled after it came to acquire 98k RS setup. That walnut really held all the important information like s.n and such so NO issues there. As Paul said the looking is for some elusive clue as to 'who' did the first work. I also agree certainly 'prewar' like mid 30s? 36.. 37?

Another thing to consider. Paul said that depot stamp was often small and lightly struck. If the rifle needed to be rebarreled, maybe that's not such a stretch that it's been mostly/completely worn away?
 
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That's great to hear, i'm fairly new to milsurp collecting, and i picked this rifle with sling and 10 boxes of ammo up for about 690$. I don't know if it was a great deal, but never the less i really enjoy the rifles aesthetic, and history. I also am glad that you all do collect research on each rifle, and use it to help others
 
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I took her out of the stock, bottom of receiver looks like this

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I also found this H near the rear sight
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I'm sure it is a bringback; little is likely to be discovered by disassembly, the front and rear sight might offer a clue to when though. Sometimes you can date work by the sights components, but in the majority of cases (when a G98 length rifle is the subject) the parts will be early components (component mfg for the G98 were stopped by the start of the war, 1939'ish, this is one reason why you start to see old receivers recycled into 98k configurations during the war)

Anyway, check out the sights, bolt and the buttplate (waffenamts and acceptance could date the parts), some clues might be there, but internally is doubtful.

You know this is not a bad looking rifle and it is fairly rare to find a fully matching upgraded G98, had it been earlier (all this work pre-1933) then it would be very very rare. Very few early reworks survive with period stocks and bolts.
 
I believe the bolt might be a WW1 bolt, as it still has those early Prussian looking eagle, and Crown
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The rear sight does hold some waffenamts, and the front sight also has a symbol i cant decipher.
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i found a website that shows waffenamts. E/63 is mauser oberndorf who i believe provided the rear sight, s/42 was apparently used late 1930's 37 til 39 if i read it correctly
 
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