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    Happy New Year All,

    2019 was a great year for finding some beat stuff and I hope 2020 continues that trend for all of us. Clearly a lot of nice Gew 98s coming out of the woodwork.

    I bought this based on some miserable pictures and have to say I was quite happy with the results of the gamble.

    The good is that it is a nice 1905 Danzig Gew 98 matching as reworked. With this being an older rifle, I was expecting to see a few reworked parts. I know some want factory matching, but I love German depot work as it depends the history.

    The triggerguard and floorplate have been force-matched to the receiver and the stock appears to be a replacement, as there are 2 SNs on the keel (one matching the receiver and the other not) if you look carefully the SN was stamped over the old in the barrel channel. The stock appears to have been sanded a long time ago, as no proofs are visible, but a large W is present under the wrist. I would assume the sanding was part of a refurb. The stock looks great and has clearly been like this for a long time. I am unfamiliar with the W mark. There is a small hairline crack at the wrist, but appears stable.

    The only other knock is that the extractor was missing from the otherwise matching bolt. Not a huge issue, but worth mentioning. I have a few spares.

    The bore is immaculate with strong rifling and clean! I would imagine it was rebarrelled given the date, but I am not as familiar with barrel codes on these.

    Overall pretty happy with this one as a nice condition pre WWI rifle.

    Receiver: 4341b
    Barrel: 4341b, code: BI 98
    Bolt body 4341 (unsure if original or depot)
    Shroud: 41
    Safety: 41
    Firing pin: 41
    Cocking piece: 41
    Extractor: missing
    Trigger/sear: No SN, imperial acceptance
    Triggerguard: 4341 (depot renumbered)
    Follower: 41
    Screws: 41
    Floorplate: 41 (depot)
    Stock: 4341 (depot renumber)
    Handguard: 4341
    Front/Rear Bands: 41
    Bayo lug: 41
    Buttplate: 4341 (small don't "17" depot stamp and armorer initial)
    Front sight: 41
    Rear sight components: 41
    Bolt release: 41
    Cleaning rod: none.
    Unit disc: no marking

    Here's some pics. Let me know if any others are needed.




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    Looks like it passed through two depots Chris. Number #3 for spandau and a small lower case number 17 for Dresden?

    That would be my guess still a very interesting rifle Chris and thank you for posting it up buddy
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    Thanks Jordan- appreciate it! Good eye, I missed that "3" last night when I was looking it over.



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    That's a warhorse for sure, great pickup. Has the disk been flipped?
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    Only the dead have seen the end of war"

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    Quote Originally Posted by feldmütze View Post
    That's a warhorse for sure, great pickup. Has the disk been flipped?
    Thanks! Nope, the disc was either replaced or never unit marked. I was hoping for a surprise given the early date.

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    Chris, that’s a wonderful rifle! I remember seeing those GB photos of it. I like these depot rebuilds myself, not sure if it’s possible to trend the work performed at each facility. But it would be interesting to see what style of rebuild each depot was inclined to do. Meaning some re-numbered some didn’t. I can’t remember if it was Koblenz or Mainz but if I remember one of those seemed to just slap them together without bothering to renumber.

    All that could be skewed thinking based of the various levels at which a rifle could be reworked.

    I actually think it’s the original barrel, given it’s a Bismarckhutte and a low lot number. The firing proof looks right for 1904-1907 time frame. Paul would know for sure on that one.
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    I too believe it's the original barrel as well Sam that early style prussian proof matches almost the same on my 1904 Danzig that was also a Depot rework. The only thing different with my rifle is it was unit marked and the barrel was made by Krupp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior1354 View Post
    I too believe it's the original barrel as well Sam that early style prussian proof matches almost the same on my 1904 Danzig that was also a Depot rework. The only thing different with my rifle is it was unit marked and the barrel was made by Krupp.
    That early Prussian proof is one of my favorites. Looks more like a dragon than an eagle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauser1908 View Post
    That early Prussian proof is one of my favorites. Looks more like a dragon than an eagle.
    Yeah, agreed! I thought dragon too like a cousin to the Zeithan proof.

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