Mauser Oberndorf Kar71

My Carbine kick continues... While on the serial study, I don't believe this one was ever fully studied and photographed.

Produced in 1878, this carbine was Württemberg accepted and has two unit marks. Both are to the 26th (2nd Württemberg) Dragoons Regt. "Konig"

The carbine is not without its issues, but I'd place this firmly in the rare in any condition category, given only 3 documented, including the one in Storz. I've learned on these Oberndorf 71s to never be picky, they just don't show up enough to be choosy.

The bolt assembly, trigger, etc matches, save for the screw and the washer.

The downsides:

-Stock and hardware are, mismatched, sanded (probably long ago) and Prussian accepted (not Württemberg), but buttplate matches the stock, so this may have been a period replacement and was later unit marked.

-There is also a small hairline crack at the wrist. It's pretty stable.

-Front band and nose cap are unnumbered, possibly scrubbed replacement. Hard to say. The nosecap screw matches, however.

- Rear sight is mismatched.

-There is considerable pitting under the wood, and the barrel was blued at some point over the pitting. (Cool Württemberg antler on the barrel!)

-The receiver has been cleaned (though not to a ridiculous level)

I'm not sure how much of the issues are old period, prior "restoration" or what, but I'm happy with it over all and doubt I'll come across the opportunity to own another.

Anyone have a B71 Oberndorf they want to sell so I can have the MO trifecta?? [emoji16]




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Even with the issues that is a wonderful carbine Chris you have a fantastic collection of carbines my friend!

Warrior1354 said:

Even with the issues that is a wonderful carbine Chris you have a fantastic collection of carbines my friend!

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Thanks man, been a good year for 71s so far!

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This rifle wasn't well documented, once owned by CB it came up for auction shortly after he passed away. I added the new information to the research thread, when we started that thread we weren't keeping the cypher details so it escaped our attention until now.

It will be tough finishing the trio! There are only a few B's recorded also.

Loewe said:

This rifle wasn't well documented, once owned by CB it came up for auction shortly after he passed away. I added the new information to the research thread, when we started that thread we weren't keeping the cypher details so it escaped our attention until now.

It will be tough finishing the trio! There are only a few B's recorded also.

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Thanks Paul-- glad to know CB once owned it. If he owned it, it was worth having.

I'm not holding my breath on a Mauser B71, but who knows.





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2017

1652. German M71 Bolt Action Carbine by Mauser Oberndorf
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serial #3407, 11x60mm, 20" barrel with a dark oxidized bore that shows pitting throughout. The in-the-white receiver and bolt of this 1878 vintage rifle show scattered sparse oxidation staining while the buttplate shows oxidation staining and pitting throughout. The blued barrel and bands are turning a dull brown patina with scattered traces of the original blue finish, while the band keeper retains much of its original fire blue. The lower tang and triggerguard retain perhaps 90% of their original blue finish with scattered pitting along the edges and some fading on triggerguard and at front of lower tang. The walnut stock rates good plus as lightly cleaned with faded Imperial cartouches, crackling and abrasions around the butt, dings, handling marks and scratches throughout and a 1" repair at upper tang. The bolt handle, safety, cocking knob, bolt body, barrel and nosecap are matching with the remaining parts including the other bolt parts being mismatched or unnumbered. The right side of the barrel is marked with a "(Crown)/W" and the buttplate is marked with a unit marking which reads "26.D./3.81". This is a good entry-level M71 Mauser Carbine for the budding military collector. (207879-265) {ANTIQUE} [Craig Brown Collection] (500/700) SOLD FOR $747.50

Thanks Paul for posting the description. I'm assuming this sold through Amouskeag like the rest of his stuff? My guess would be that the auctioneer didn't quite realize how scarce these are. If I were selling I'd sure note that.

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Here is CB's "B", it subsequently turned up at LR auctions (February 2018), saved the pictures, but not text. It would be great if you could united them one day...

1240. German M71 Jager Bolt Action Rifle by Mauser Oberndorf
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Description Update (11/16/16): Cleaned area of pitting on bolt handle

serial #4513, 11x60mm, 29 1/2" barrel with a very good bore that shows a few scattered pits. The in-the-white receiver, bolt, lower tang and buttplate of this 1876 vintage rifle show are turning a dull gray patina with scattered oxidation staining and some pitting on buttplate. The blued bands, rear sight assembly, triggerguard and barrel have turned a dull brown patina with oxidation staining and freckling throughout, pitting on right side of barrel, cleaning rod and on front band and a few large spots of silvering on barrel. The hardwood stock rates very good with an added varnish finish, crisp Imperial cartouches, scattered stains, abrasions, scratches, dings and handling marks. All visible serial numbers are matching and there are no visible unit markings on the buttplate. A brass muzzle cap that shows oxidation staining and is marked "13.A.L.6.117." is included with this rifle. A solid example of a hard-to-find early Mauser rifle. (207879-255) {ANTIQUE} [Craig Brown Collection] (800/1200) SOLD FOR $920.00

Yes, both through Amoskeag, along with most of his collection. Much of it was bought by flippers and showed up on GB.

That would be pretty great to reunite. I'll have to put out the dragnet on it.

Thanks Paul. Slightly related note, if you are updating the study, did you also catch the CGH Kar71 I found in the wild last week? Should be maybe 5-6 posts down from here.



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chrisftk said:

That would be pretty great to reunite. I'll have to put out the dragnet on it.

Thanks Paul. Slightly related note, if you are updating the study, did you also catch the CGH Kar71 I found in the wild last week? Should be maybe 5-6 posts down from here.



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I am not sure, I do remember tinkering with the threads a couple of times this week, but I could have missed it.

Nice rifle. Here are a couple items from the 26th Dragoon Regiment. Cheers!

Thanks! I appreciate you sharing those.

Just catching this thread for the first time. Very cool rare carbine Chris, also I had never heard of the B71 carbine. What was the difference in design of the B?
I stumbled on a website that states a British company named NA and A also produced 6000 71 carbines. Those must be very rare. It appears about midway down the page. https://www.militaryrifles.com/germany/mauser1871

biggymu said:

Just catching this thread for the first time. Very cool rare carbine Chris, also I had never heard of the B71 carbine. What was the difference in design of the B?
I stumbled on a website that states a British company named NA and A also produced 6000 71 carbines. Those must be very rare. It appears about midway down the page. https://www.militaryrifles.com/germany/mauser1871

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Thanks Rick!

The B 71 (or 71B) is just another slang term for the Jägerbüchse. They are equally rare, with documented numbers in the single digits I later found one

I am not aware that NAA made carbines for the Germans, nor is it covered in Storz. They did make M71 rifles though They are fairly rare. Here is my M71 rifle by NAA. There's a long story, but the short of it is that the Prussians did not find them acceptable and only took possession of a portion of the large order. The carbines might be cut down versions for export as NAA tried to dump unaccepted inventory.

My mistake. NA&A produced rifles and not carbines. What an extraordinary collection you have Chris. Thank you for the additional links!

biggymu said:

My mistake. NA&A produced rifles and not carbines. What an extraordinary collection you have Chris. Thank you for the additional links!

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I appreciate the kind words, just trying to share the little bit of knowledge I have combined with detailed pics that you don't often see in books. I hope it's helpful. I know others here have the same philosophy.