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    Hello all,
    Just joined the forum.
    Just purchased my second Mauser, in a week!
    First one fell into my lap at a gunshow.
    A young man wandered up and said he just wanted to get his money back out of a rifle he really couldn't afford.
    Pulled out the 40th Edition of the gospel according to Mr. Fjestad (RIP) and gasp, the lowest value for that rifle was $850.
    All he wanted was $450 for a Code 147 1939 with everything in apparent working order.
    I peeled off some hundreds even though my buddy pointed out it was missing the handguard.
    We wandered around the gunshow some more and found a walnut handguard of the same tonal value and color as the laminated stock within 30 minutes, Eureka!
    Thought we had a winner...
    Then I learned about Russian Capture rifles and the mismatched numbers.
    And then I learned about headspace, or shall I say, too much headspace.
    Now the hunt is on for a correct fitting bolt after buying the gauges and learning how to properly test.
    Regardless, that rifle is now playing second fiddle to #21
    One night last week before going to bed I looked online and found what looked like a re-blued 98 that had just been posted with a starting bid and a buy now option.
    Only a couple of pictures but it really grabbed my attention.
    All numbers matching and what looked like a new stock.
    Problem is there are no crown markings.
    BSW is struck through on the right side above the wood.
    Other strikethroughs are below the rear sight.
    Cartouches on the keel were the real eye catcher.
    Please fill me in.
    As a side note. We took it to this weekend's gunshow and all the old guys told me it was a Bubba's garage re-do and wasn't worth $300
    I wasn't trying to sell it, just seeking information.
    Seller claimed his wife's granddad was one of the first US soldiers in Berlin.
    He had 4 of them still in cosmolene and wrapped in wax paper stashed in the closet along with a Luger.
    Divorce comes about the same time grandpa died but the seller still got one of the rifles.
    Now ex-wife's three brothers have the other three. Seller tried to tell me it was a 7mm, but had not been re-barreled.
    In fact, none of the rifles had been removed from storage until just a couple of weeks ago...75 years tucked away out of sight.
    #21 looks showroom new and the barrel is like a mirror.
    It has the early style buttplate and a sight hood.
    Stamps are everywhere.
    Please don't offer to buy, I'm seeking information.
    I don't know if the seller's ex-brothers in law will part with theirs or even if they know what they have, but I will look into that for sure.
    Please examine the pictures and tell me what you think.
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    Stamps everywhere except on the crown
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    21 stamps all over
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    Default 321 Keel closeups

    Closeups of the Keel top to bottom.
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    more of 21
    Thanks in advance for all of you sharing your knowledge on a topic I didn't even know existed.
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    Your rifle is what’s known as a commercial build, built using military spare parts for unknown at his point end users. The 11 43 on the barrel
    Is the date it was proof tested and the upside down heart tells us it was at Suhl. We’ll break this out and create a separate thread for you. Surely not Bubba work and if the bolt matches worth substantially more than the gun show no nothings told you.


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    This is not a military depot rifle but a commercially assembled variant very nice to find and every bit as desirable. These were assembled from usable parts rejected by the military and extra armorers parts to fill the need for extra rifles for the Volksturm, Factory guards, Political organizations, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swjXE View Post
    This is not a military depot rifle but a commercially assembled variant very nice to find and every bit as desirable. These were assembled from usable parts rejected by the military and extra armorers parts to fill the need for extra rifles for the Volksturm etc.
    Oops, mfarb beat me to it.

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