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Hannover Depot Build

chrisftk

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Hi all,

I bought this on GunBroker after discussing it a bit with another member (Sam) and am pretty happy with it.

Based on the characteristics, this looks like it may be an early Hannover build from before they switched to new-made receivers---this made from a recycled 1906 Oberndorf receiver.

The stock is an armorer's spare that does not have final acceptance, there is an "A" on the keel and a crown/RC along with a SN and a crown/B at the wrist. This is identical to the stock on Sam's Hannover build. Further the stock has an ink "A" in the barrel channel by the SN. The buttplate is H and K marked, again fitting the Hannover profile. The handguard matches.

The bolt is force matched to the rifle with the flat lined out and the new SN on the ball (my depot VCS is numbered the same way) the rest of the bolt has the original SN digits.

The receiver is force matched (I haven't seen this too often) and appears to have a new Krupp barrel (also marked "A" by the barrel code) with a diamond marking directly in front of the rear sight on top of the barrel.

The majority of the other components don't match, save the bayonet lug and a numbered armorer floorplate. This has the look and feel of a rifle borne out of "get them to the troops ASAP" The rear screw is a later Weimar armorer screw (three notches), likely replaced by a prior owner.

The unit mark is to the Reserve Infantry Regt, No. 245 out of Leipzig, a Saxon unit called up at mobilization. Randomly enough, my 3rd Saxon rifle.

So to sum up:

Receiver #9809 (force-matched)
Barrel 9809
Stock 9809
Handguard 9809
Bolt body 9809 (forcematched on knob)
Buttplate 9809
Bayonet lug 9809
Floorplate 09

The bolt matches itself (small parts match old # on body) All the rest of the components on the rifle are total mismatch-- I believe this is original and part of the haste in which it was made.

Thanks for looking.
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Good analysis, there is also the fact that only Spandau, DWM and Hannover are the only known to apply the BC in front of the RS, though this is generally a later feature, 1916 and after as I recall.
 
Good analysis, there is also the fact that only Spandau, DWM and Hannover are the only known to apply the BC in front of the RS, though this is generally a later feature, 1916 and after as I recall.
Thanks Paul- I remember seeing the BC in that spot on 16-dated rifles from spandau I've seen- also on Sam's Hannover. The unit mark and recycled receiver were pushing me to an earlier (pre-16) date, prior to spare receivers from Spandau being diverted to Hannover), but that's just a guess.

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Great rifle Chris! I like this one a lot. I've owned a few of these over the years, one was reworked on a 1902 Danzig receiver it matched your rifle to the tee. Really wasn't knowledgeable enough at the time to realize these seem to have their own flavor. It was literally eight years ago and my third gew 98, didn't know much about the nuances and where to look for the barrel code as all the others I had were on the shank. It was probably was visible and I frankly overlooked it. The other, which I have no photos, was a 1914 WMO.

I really wish I had held on to that 1902 Danzig considering it was the quintessential depot rework, damn near nothing original, all armorers spare parts, and lined out re-serializations. It went through Koblenz and Hannover, based on what I know now most of the substantial work was probably done at Hannover. We all know how that goes though, trading off to build up what you have now leads you to getting rid of stuff you regret later. Cyrus has probably two of the best ones I've owned a 1916 Erfurt sterngewehr built on an Amberg receiver and wonderful Danzig 1917 on the most orange colored beech stock I've ever seen.

Here are a few photos of that 1902.

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Wow, really cool rifle Sam, I'm sorry you let it go. I had a 1905 Spandau that was also a depot rifle. I sold it maybe 8-9 years ago when I was trying to complete my k98k codes collection. Sadly, I dont have any pics left. The stock was sanded to kingdom come but otherwise a really neat one. I like the funkiness of depot rifles. It's one of the areas of crossover I enjoy with my 98ks too.

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