tokarev38
Senior Member
Dave, can you make out any "ghost" remains of what was scrubbed of the receiver?
thanks,
Most likely PFK WARSZAWA 1924 or 1923
Dave, can you make out any "ghost" remains of what was scrubbed of the receiver?
thanks,
Most likely PFK WARSZAWA 1924 or 1923
Are any of the triangle Z rifles reworks of former German Gew. 98s? It seems strange that the Poles would scrub their own
maker marks. I have seen Polish used Gew. 98s that still had all the German markings and just the Polish eagle added. I would
have thought these were more likely to be scrubbed. thoughts?
All Z-Builds (Z in a triangle top receiver):
304 k SR- 98a (Clean scrub, faint C/B's RR, by suffix remains and RR I suspect CGH)
1444 k SR- 98a (Clean scrub, faint RR, by RR I suspect DWM)
2284 K SR- Gew.98.a (unscrubbed, Danzig/16)
K3236 SR- Gew.98 (clean scrub, RR fairly clear, Amberg/15)
3805 k SR- 98a (clean scrub, RR n/a, by suffix style & Peiper reciever, I suspect WMO/17 sterngewehr)
6757 k SR- W98.a (in other pictures 2018 you can make out faint top markings, I suspect 20's PFK Warszawa)
7485 K SR- Gew.98.a (WMO/1915 faint, but clear)
7535 k SR- 98a (well scrubbed, no way to guess)
7609 k SR- 98a (well scrubbed but clear Erfurt style FP, probably JPS/CGH/VCS)
8160 k SR- 98a (well scrubbed but clear Bavarian FP, Amberg for sure)
I inherited a 1924 PFK Warszawa w98 when my dad recently passed away. He's had it my my whole life. He always told me it was a old dnuper rifle. It doesn't look like any one that I have found pictures of.The early PFK Warszawa (W.98's) are damn difficult to find, even the few I have recorded are seriously screwed up, German reworks or worse... I don't think I have recorded one that is really decent or near original.
*** actually one is recorded in pretty good shape, a gunboards discussion from 2013 (1924 PFK Warszawa 15881); on another note, there are a good number of former G98's that have been re-barreled and often restocked by the Poles, but lack Z markings or the FBR shield, some are partial scrubs (half-hearted) or unmolested. The Poles really did put an effort into salvaging foreign rifles and much of it is hard to decipher because the Germans often tinkered with them again after 1939. Anyway, there is a great deal of merit focusing on Polish rifles and their many variants (some are probably not true variants, rather just mongrels that defy classification..), though the seemingly dearth of reference material really complicates specialization in the subject. York's VIS book is the only book I have on the subject, that and a bunch of clipped articles written by collectors that know little more than I do and almost all centered around the VIS. Really, someone could make a name for themselves (in the hobby broadly) studying and writing a good book on the various Polish rifle variations (in English)
I inherited a 1924 PFK Warszawa w98 when my dad recently passed away. He's had it my my whole life. He always told me it was a old sniper rifle. It doesn't look like any one that I have found pictures of.
None visibleDave, can you make out any "ghost" remains of what was scrubbed of the receiver?
thanks,