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Byf43 k bock zf41 in elm !!

mauser99

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Byf43 k block zf41 in elm !!

Yes, this is it.. The owner of the rifle was nice enough to take some pic's of it.. Cause if I told you, you wouldnt believe me.. So here it is !
Also of note, it has a stamped, closed & weded upper sheetmetal band with a e/135 proof. These are scarce to see. All matching less an armourer replaced 'L' coded floorplate.. Bolt, is a f/n subcontracted item. Showing both the e/140 proof and the MI on the rear lug.
 

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Very nice, Wayne. hanks for posting pics of that. Was it for sale, or display, or what?

Jeff
 
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no, it wasnt for sale..there was also an all matching to the cleaning rod s/147/k walking around.. That couldnt be bought either. god knows we tried. It was neat to see. It was also r.f.v. marked. Yes farb, I jacked the serial # and rfv number as well...
 
no, it wasnt for sale..there was also an all matching to the cleaning rod s/147/k walking around.. That couldnt be bought either. god knows we tried. It was neat to see. It was also r.f.v. marked. Yes farb, I jacked the serial # and rfv number as well...

By all means, send it on!
 
Very Nice and Interesting ZF41 to bad the stock was sanded , that hurts. Best Regards
 
Could we talk just a minute to educate this poor, hard working countryboy about stock woods? The wood in this piece is, without question, Elm, and I would assume maybe Dutch or one of the other species of European Elms-assuming that there are other species. The grain characteristics prove this, and these are virtually the same as the two American species that have been used for stocks. Ocassionally an original flintlock longrifle from the Colonial Period foward will be found with an Elm stock. It was used and valued for its dimensial stability, but was difficult to work with hand tools. I'm not aware of Elm being used with modern firearms other than the occasional Milsurp such as this one.

But what I want to ask is this: TEAK. Occasionally I will see a message posted refering to a Teak stock. At present there is such a message posted on the 98k section of GunBoards...(my new 98k's arrived-or something similar to this). I would like to know for sure IF Teak was ever used with 98k's or other pieces. I would seriously question its ever being used for stocks due to the reasons I mentioned in the above referenced GunBoards message, but I don't know about its use for sure, and I don't want to make a fool out of myself saying something I know nothing about. One of you highly knowledgable fellows Please fill me in on this! If there are printed references to various stock woods I would very much like to know what these are so that I could research and get up to speed on this subject.
 
Can you guys post what an un-sanded elm stock should look like so I know what you are comparing it too??
I think the stock looks original..

Bob??


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But what I want to ask is this: TEAK. Occasionally I will see a message posted refering to a Teak stock. At present there is such a message posted on the 98k section of GunBoards...(my new 98k's arrived-or something similar to this). I would like to know for sure IF Teak was ever used with 98k's or other pieces.

For a long time people thought that stocks like this byf 43 k block were oak. Similarly, people thought that postwar the Yugoslavians were manufacturing M48 and some K98k stocks in teak. To the best of my knowledge at this point it is believed that the Yugo stocks are elm(and German WW2 K98k stocks previously believed to be oak). I can't speak too much for the postwar Yugo stocks as I haven't paid that much attention to "developments" in that collecting community (mostly the Branko book), but I have never heard anyone suggest that any of the WW2 K98k stocks were teak. I only bring up the Yugo stocks here as I believe that they are likely the source of anyone suggesting that some of the stocks were teak.
 
Can you guys post what an un-sanded elm stock should look like so I know what you are comparing it too??
I think the stock looks original..

Bob??


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I have one but have no access to it from work. I think that the comments you are reading are mostly based on the rounded edges of the bolt cutout.
 

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elm zf41

I looked at this rifle in january,and the stock has been sanded.Who ever did it worked around the side proof,as it is very ciear.The grip and the area around the recoil lug show the most evedence of the sanding.Not horrible,but still sanded.The metal is very nice.Bud
 
i agree that the bolt and sling cutouts look rounded...but dont see how the stock sould b sanded with such a crisp e/135 like that
 
i agree that the bolt and sling cutouts look rounded...but dont see how the stock sould b sanded with such a crisp e/135 like that

Whoever did the sanding knew enough to leave the stock marking alone. Pretty sad. Likely done to improve the stock by removing a few scratches and dings.
 
Photos from Gunbroker 130512571. Matching BYF 43 Elm stock Serial 12815 K.
 

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