rcmauser
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Per request, here are some pics for a late (December?) 1943 dot, 5644v matching numbers with MM bolt that matches itself. It seems the v-block serial probably came from the December '43 time frame.
I acquired the dot 1943 5644v at the Timonium, Maryland antique gun show in March. Needs some TLC, but it is basically complete. I am somehow attracted to otherwise limping wounded k98's. I passed on the $1,100 "War-time replacement stocked mauser" with the post-war Yugoslavian numbering on it. That gentleman does get credit for directing me to this dot mauser at another vendors' table on the other isle. I guess there are advantages Not to Gasp and Shudder at every fairytale mauser I see...
The miss-matched bolt does not match the rifle, but the two serials on it (bolt stem and safety) do match each other. The other parts are completely devoid of markings and serials. I think it is one of those armorer kit bolts. I will post pictures of the bolt later. Please excuse the quality of some of the pictures. My camera battery died during the session, so I had to use some of the test pictures taken early in the am...
This k98 has some interesting aspects for discussion. This V block has a four digit serial on the rear barrel band. Farbs Q block has two. Was use of two or four digits on the bands seen throughout the manufacture of dot k98s? This stock appears to be have a greenish tone to the glue. As St Patrick-day was still in season, it seemed appropriate.....
The stamped front H-band is a curiosity. How many series used this version. Was its use predominate in one or several letter series? and then now and again throughout the others?
After close inspection outdoors in the sun, I discovered that the stock has a thin horse-shoe shaped crack at the top of the wrist behind the tang. POOT!! I did not see that under the florescent lights of the Building at the Timonium Fairgrounds. I still would have purchased the k98. However I could have knocked some green off the stock (pun intended). The seller offered to let me take it outside to see which front sight from his offerings better matched the finish. I should have taken him up on that deal (hind sight is 20/20). He did mention that the stock was solid other than the duffel cut.
As far as I know the negative aspects of this k98 are:
- Duffel cut under the rear sight separates the stamped barrel channel serial number.
- Movement of the fore end has allowed the rim of the front hand guard shield on the rear sight to rub into the wood.
- There is a very thin crack at the top of the wrist behind the tang (I wonder if someone shot this rifle with the stock cut in half?).
- The butt-plate has been cleaned and the red paint pattern does not match the red paint pattern on the wood at the butt-plate. I suspect the butt-plate has been moved around.
- The original sight hood was missing. I put on a good substitute.
- An era appropriate cleaning rod was added.
Other info:
Metal has a nice overall dark blued finish
Stock - Green colored glue. This should make for an interesting discussion.
Duffel cut under rear sight and stained at some point. However it looks original correct finish to me.
Marks:
"dot" stamped on bottom near heal
Cross-bolt appears to have phosphate finish; probably just patina
Under butt-plate in pencil Ja (a could be i)
In barrel channel a penciled "S", "V" and maybe a "21" or fancy "U", stamped 5644 V.
Bayonet lug dark bluing no marks and cut for use with the H-band.
Bolt take down disk no marks with nice patina.
Handguard - White glue with dot stamped on outside top, penciled "5/3" and stamped 5644 v in channel.
Front barrel band is a stamped and welded H-band with 135 inspection mark.
Stamped Trigger guard has 214 inspection mark, with deep dark finish.
11/28/2012 Update: Replaced the dark contrasty pictures...
I acquired the dot 1943 5644v at the Timonium, Maryland antique gun show in March. Needs some TLC, but it is basically complete. I am somehow attracted to otherwise limping wounded k98's. I passed on the $1,100 "War-time replacement stocked mauser" with the post-war Yugoslavian numbering on it. That gentleman does get credit for directing me to this dot mauser at another vendors' table on the other isle. I guess there are advantages Not to Gasp and Shudder at every fairytale mauser I see...
The miss-matched bolt does not match the rifle, but the two serials on it (bolt stem and safety) do match each other. The other parts are completely devoid of markings and serials. I think it is one of those armorer kit bolts. I will post pictures of the bolt later. Please excuse the quality of some of the pictures. My camera battery died during the session, so I had to use some of the test pictures taken early in the am...
This k98 has some interesting aspects for discussion. This V block has a four digit serial on the rear barrel band. Farbs Q block has two. Was use of two or four digits on the bands seen throughout the manufacture of dot k98s? This stock appears to be have a greenish tone to the glue. As St Patrick-day was still in season, it seemed appropriate.....
The stamped front H-band is a curiosity. How many series used this version. Was its use predominate in one or several letter series? and then now and again throughout the others?
After close inspection outdoors in the sun, I discovered that the stock has a thin horse-shoe shaped crack at the top of the wrist behind the tang. POOT!! I did not see that under the florescent lights of the Building at the Timonium Fairgrounds. I still would have purchased the k98. However I could have knocked some green off the stock (pun intended). The seller offered to let me take it outside to see which front sight from his offerings better matched the finish. I should have taken him up on that deal (hind sight is 20/20). He did mention that the stock was solid other than the duffel cut.
As far as I know the negative aspects of this k98 are:
- Duffel cut under the rear sight separates the stamped barrel channel serial number.
- Movement of the fore end has allowed the rim of the front hand guard shield on the rear sight to rub into the wood.
- There is a very thin crack at the top of the wrist behind the tang (I wonder if someone shot this rifle with the stock cut in half?).
- The butt-plate has been cleaned and the red paint pattern does not match the red paint pattern on the wood at the butt-plate. I suspect the butt-plate has been moved around.
- The original sight hood was missing. I put on a good substitute.
- An era appropriate cleaning rod was added.
Other info:
Metal has a nice overall dark blued finish
Stock - Green colored glue. This should make for an interesting discussion.
Duffel cut under rear sight and stained at some point. However it looks original correct finish to me.
Marks:
"dot" stamped on bottom near heal
Cross-bolt appears to have phosphate finish; probably just patina
Under butt-plate in pencil Ja (a could be i)
In barrel channel a penciled "S", "V" and maybe a "21" or fancy "U", stamped 5644 V.
Bayonet lug dark bluing no marks and cut for use with the H-band.
Bolt take down disk no marks with nice patina.
Handguard - White glue with dot stamped on outside top, penciled "5/3" and stamped 5644 v in channel.
Front barrel band is a stamped and welded H-band with 135 inspection mark.
Stamped Trigger guard has 214 inspection mark, with deep dark finish.
11/28/2012 Update: Replaced the dark contrasty pictures...
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